(7) Saturday Big East Games 12/14/19

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Postby marquette » Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:10 pm

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:It could always be worse. You could lose a buy game at Cincinnati in epic fashion.


Wow. That Colgate team lost by 16 to the Syracuse squad that a 7 man Georgetown team just beat by 10. I don't think this Cincinnati team makes the NCAA.

Good job PC. Held on for the win.
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Postby Hall2012 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:28 pm

The biggest loss for the Hall yesterday was, of course, Myles Powell who suffered a concussion less then 3 minutes in. The Hall essentially played that game without it's top 2 players, so the result doesn't concerned me at all.

What concerns me is the fact that Powell was somehow left in the game until the first half's U4 timeout with the coaching staff unaware of the injury until he went up to Willard and asked "why are we practicing at Rutgers?"

Hopefully Powell's okay, concussions are very serious and his health at this point is far more important than the result of one basketball game or even whether or not the team reaches the tournament.
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Re: (7) Saturday Big East Games 12/14/19

Postby MullinMayhem » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:09 am

I root for Seton Hall...I really do. But man they have blown so many golden opportunities. Not trying to pile on what is already a very tough year for SHU fans, but to go from Sweet 16 if not better discussion pre-season to unranked before conference play and tourney hopes fading is pretty rough. It's not all on injuries either...I think they just relied on Powell way too much. I've been saying Willard is overrated for a few years now. They just cannot win the big games.
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Postby DeadHeadHoya » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:27 pm

rank Georgetown you cowards
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Re: (7) Saturday Big East Games 12/14/19

Postby Hall2012 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:55 pm

MullinMayhem wrote:I root for Seton Hall...I really do. But man they have blown so many golden opportunities. Not trying to pile on what is already a very tough year for SHU fans, but to go from Sweet 16 if not better discussion pre-season to unranked before conference play and tourney hopes fading is pretty rough. It's not all on injuries either...I think they just relied on Powell way too much. I've been saying Willard is overrated for a few years now. They just cannot win the big games.


Quit lying, no you don't. If any compliment you've ever given SHU hasn't been backhanded, it's at least come with a caveat. You were probably sipping champagne as you typed that out. Oh and SHU has won plenty more "big games" for this league than SJU has.

And while i hasn't been 100% on injuries, it very largely has been. In fact, the only loss injuries were a non-factor in was Oregon - that was just a disastrous choke job - but the others:

Michigan State - Powell was effective (because his 3 was falling), but clearly playing hurt as was evident by his inability to have success getting to the rim. At 100%, it's a win.

Iowa State - Lost Sandro to injury roughly 2 minutes in - Sandro was a major force in the win over Iowa State a week earlier - they couldn't stop him and needing to respect his shooting ability created space for Powell. None of SHU's other bigs can even remotely bring that threat. With Sandro in the game, the result is likely the same as round 1.

Rutgers - Already down Sandro (who torched RU last year), Powell got concussed less than 3 minutes in. They played essentially the entire game without their top 2 players. Very few teams will be able to go on the road against a B1G team and win like that. With both players healthy, they likely win. Even with just Powell healthy, SHU's odds would've been over 50%.

Yes, the team isn't without its flaws - the most prominent of which is Powell-dependence, but 3 of the 4 losses are directly tied to injuries to SHU's top 2 players. It happens, it's unfortunate, but it's not on Willard. Very few (if any) teams are deep enough to lose their top 2 players and move on without a hitch.
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Re: (7) Saturday Big East Games 12/14/19

Postby gtmoBlue » Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:53 pm

Excellent rebuttal Hall2012, excellent.


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