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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby scoscox » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:54 pm

With the amount of talent depaul will have I would hope they can finish better than 144. I think that’s low for both them and St. John’s tho. Sju still has some good talent and mike Anderson should have them playing hard.
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby scoscox » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:59 pm

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 7495248896

This is honestly a pretty darn good lineup. By far the most talented team depaul has had in recent history. They could be pretty competitive. Rothstein goes on to say it’s the most physically imposing depaul team he remembers.

The Chicago big east team may finally be starting to wake up

If depaul is competitive and at Johns is competitive under Anderson, the league could be an absolute monster this year on the level of recent big 12 seasons.
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:43 am

scoscox wrote:https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1151883497495248896

This is honestly a pretty darn good lineup. By far the most talented team depaul has had in recent history. They could be pretty competitive. Rothstein goes on to say it’s the most physically imposing depaul team he remembers.

The Chicago big east team may finally be starting to wake up

If depaul is competitive and at Johns is competitive under Anderson, the league could be an absolute monster this year on the level of recent big 12 seasons.


This is one of several key important areas of growth for the Big East moving forward. If DePaul (Chicago) and St. John's (New York City) can elevate their level of play, and - most importantly, sustain that level of success, it will create a strong following in our top-two media markets (and prized recruiting areas) for the league. I would also throw-in Georgetown (Washington D.C.) into this group as well. Getting those three into the upper half of the conference regularly would be huge, and it certainly seems like the future is bright for all three of these programs moving forward.
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby gtmoBlue » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:31 pm

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:
scoscox wrote:https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1151883497495248896

This is honestly a pretty darn good lineup. By far the most talented team depaul has had in recent history. They could be pretty competitive. Rothstein goes on to say it’s the most physically imposing depaul team he remembers.

The Chicago big east team may finally be starting to wake up

If depaul is competitive and at Johns is competitive under Anderson, the league could be an absolute monster this year on the level of recent big 12 seasons.


This is one of several key important areas of growth for the Big East moving forward. If DePaul (Chicago) and St. John's (New York City) can elevate their level of play, and - most importantly, sustain that level of success, it will create a strong following in our top-two media markets (and prized recruiting areas) for the league. I would also throw-in Georgetown (Washington D.C.) into this group as well. Getting those three into the upper half of the conference regularly would be huge, and it certainly seems like the future is bright for all three of these programs moving forward.


So long SH, Prov, Marquette, and X. Welcome to the mid and bottom tiers.
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:31 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:
So long SH, Prov, Marquette, and X. Welcome to the mid and bottom tiers.


Crazy ole' Uncle Git does bring up an interesting debate. Look into the BE crystal ball. Which teams are most set up for long term success? In 5 years--assuming no major coaching defections--who are the top tier teams and who are the bottom dwellers? Not an easy thing to predict by any stretch...

My best guess:

- Nova. Until consistently unseated.
- X. Can't debate their long term success as a program.
- PC. Cooley World Order associate member. You do wonder if UConn starts affecting recruiting.
- G'town - I like PE. Think he has has already started to turn that ship right around. Very good young talent.
- UConn - Can't argue with their recruiting. We'll see if Hurley can actually coach.
- Marq. - Wojo is close.
- SHU - Willard has proven he wasn't a one trick (1 recruiting class) pony
- Creighton - Great all around program. Can Mac learn how to coach D?
- Butler - Prob a step below others in recruiting. But the Butler Way
- SJU - Hoping Anderson can turn things around but always seem to shoot themselves in the foot.
- DePaul - Lots of optimism but still just DePaul until proven otherwise.

Truth be told 3-9 could be shuffled and dealt 100 different ways and I'd struggle to argue against any random listing.
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby Xudash » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:45 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:
gtmoBlue wrote:
So long SH, Prov, Marquette, and X. Welcome to the mid and bottom tiers.


Crazy ole' Uncle Git does bring up an interesting debate. Look into the BE crystal ball. Which teams are most set up for long term success? In 5 years--assuming no major coaching defections--who are the top tier teams and who are the bottom dwellers? Not an easy thing to predict by any stretch...

My best guess:

- Nova. Until consistently unseated.
- X. Can't debate their long term success as a program.
- PC. Cooley World Order associate member. You do wonder if UConn starts affecting recruiting.
- G'town - I like PE. Think he has has already started to turn that ship right around. Very good young talent.
- UConn - Can't argue with their recruiting. We'll see if Hurley can actually coach.
- Marq. - Wojo is close.
- SHU - Willard has proven he wasn't a one trick (1 recruiting class) pony
- Creighton - Great all around program. Can Mac learn how to coach D?
- Butler - Prob a step below others in recruiting. But the Butler Way
- SJU - Hoping Anderson can turn things around but always seem to shoot themselves in the foot.
- DePaul - Lots of optimism but still just DePaul until proven otherwise.

Truth be told 3-9 could be shuffled and dealt 100 different ways and I'd struggle to argue against any random listing.


Hard to argue with your assessment.

If I picked at it at all, I would go down the road of a kind of program "elasticity" argument, which would have me placing Georgetown and UConn above PC, but Cooley and PC have earned a strong rep.
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby scoscox » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:16 pm

We’re about to stack two top 25 classes on top of each other. I think we’re in pretty good shape
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby gtmoBlue » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:38 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:
gtmoBlue wrote:
So long SH, Prov, Marquette, and X. Welcome to the mid and bottom tiers.


Crazy ole' Uncle Git does bring up an interesting debate. Look into the BE crystal ball. Which teams are most set up for long term success? In 5 years--assuming no major coaching defections--who are the top tier teams and who are the bottom dwellers? Not an easy thing to predict by any stretch...

My best guess:

- Nova. Until consistently unseated.
- X. Can't debate their long term success as a program.
- PC. Cooley World Order associate member. You do wonder if UConn starts affecting recruiting.
- G'town - I like PE. Think he has has already started to turn that ship right around. Very good young talent.
- UConn - Can't argue with their recruiting. We'll see if Hurley can actually coach.
- Marq. - Wojo is close.
- SHU - Willard has proven he wasn't a one trick (1 recruiting class) pony
- Creighton - Great all around program. Can Mac learn how to coach D?
- Butler - Prob a step below others in recruiting. But the Butler Way
- SJU - Hoping Anderson can turn things around but always seem to shoot themselves in the foot.
- DePaul - Lots of optimism but still just DePaul until proven otherwise.

Truth be told 3-9 could be shuffled and dealt 100 different ways and I'd struggle to argue against any random listing.


If this is your assessment, then recruiting by all 3 StJ, SH, and Prov will suffer...and they will lose the momentum they have gained this last 6 years.
Drop PC and slide the Jays into the 5th slot. ;)
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby NJRedman » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:08 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:
GumbyDamnit! wrote:
gtmoBlue wrote:
So long SH, Prov, Marquette, and X. Welcome to the mid and bottom tiers.


Crazy ole' Uncle Git does bring up an interesting debate. Look into the BE crystal ball. Which teams are most set up for long term success? In 5 years--assuming no major coaching defections--who are the top tier teams and who are the bottom dwellers? Not an easy thing to predict by any stretch...

My best guess:

- Nova. Until consistently unseated.
- X. Can't debate their long term success as a program.
- PC. Cooley World Order associate member. You do wonder if UConn starts affecting recruiting.
- G'town - I like PE. Think he has has already started to turn that ship right around. Very good young talent.
- UConn - Can't argue with their recruiting. We'll see if Hurley can actually coach.
- Marq. - Wojo is close.
- SHU - Willard has proven he wasn't a one trick (1 recruiting class) pony
- Creighton - Great all around program. Can Mac learn how to coach D?
- Butler - Prob a step below others in recruiting. But the Butler Way
- SJU - Hoping Anderson can turn things around but always seem to shoot themselves in the foot.
- DePaul - Lots of optimism but still just DePaul until proven otherwise.

Truth be told 3-9 could be shuffled and dealt 100 different ways and I'd struggle to argue against any random listing.


If this is your assessment, then recruiting by all 3 StJ, SH, and Prov will suffer...and they will lose the momentum they have gained this last 6 years.
Drop PC and slide the Jays into the 5th slot. ;)


Creighton belongs below DePaul! :lol:
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby Django » Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:15 am

NJRedman wrote:
Creighton belongs below DePaul! :lol:


Until we can win championships in the Big East and get to the Final Four, Creighton belongs in the MVC.
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