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I know the season hasn't started and thank goodness it starts this week but here is CBS preseason bracktology: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

Nova-9
Marquette- 5
Creighton- 8
Georgetown-8

I'm sorry but the best seed for a BE team is a 5, really? I understand it isn't the BE of old but I can't believe that the winner of the BE won't get a 3 seed or higher. And yes this is a preseason poll which probably was conceived using the ap and coaches poll and not SOS, RPI, actual game results, but I still take this as a slight to the BE. I guess we will have to prove all the haters that we are an elite conference. Since we only have a few days until the season tips off I'll put my predictions in for tourney seeding:

Marquette-2
Villanova- 8
Georgetown-3
Creighton-4
Providence-10
St. Johns-9

Here's hoping we all can have a strong OOC. I'll be cheering for all the BE teams until the BE schedule starts when I will actively be rooting against everyone when the play Marquette. Cheers.

I think the pundits are generally underrating the BE, for sure. It's tough for them tho...we're a new league, some of the top teams do have issues (porter gone from GU, MU losing a couple of top players)...they have no clue how we'll perform OOC. Et, et.

I don't care. We'll make it into the top 15, if not the top 10, yet again. I just wanna win a few games in the tourney this year.

I think we'll know a lot by the end of December.... I think the predictions this year are so much harder than normal given all the shifting. No one really knows how the RPI will play out. We'll have a better idea end of December when all the OOC games are over with...

I think maybe what he's thinking is all 4 tourney teams he has beat the crap out of each other and give each other 4-6 losses. Given how hard the schedule is for Marquette- They have w/o taking into account their tourney 3 top 25 teams and Arizona St- then the tourney where they could see Creighton OOC- probably giving them a few losses in there. I think if all that happens- best seed may be a 4 or 5.

looking- last year the only teams with more than 7 losses as top 4 seeds were-
Marquette 8 losses
Syracuse 9 losses
Michigan St 8 losses
A lot of Marquette and Syracuse of course was the insane conference schedules those teams had to play. Really all 3 in that boat-adding in the Big Ten.. Syracuse Had the hardest conference schedule in the country last year. Mich St was 2nd. Marquette was "only" 17th. I don't think we'll be as "insane" like we were last year so unfortunately that may be the problem our teams run into with seeding if we do beat up on each other

oh and just as a point-
of the top 8 seeds last year- only San Diego St, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Illinois, and NC State had 10 or 11 losses. I think that could be another reason for the lower seedings for the other teams.

i'm sure one of us here could put together a spreadsheet to try to project things out based on different outcomes. I think you'd have to do that this year based on all of the conf changes to get a real sense as to what may happen.

I know for GU, we could easily have a pretty bad OOC record, but if we perform in conference, our RPI will be phenomenal. Doubt anyone is playing as many top teams OOC as we are between KU, MSU, O, and the like, but it will probably come down to the "cupcakes". I thought I saw that we're playing fewer 300+rpi teams this year, could be wrong

IamJack wrote:i'm sure one of us here could put together a spreadsheet to try to project things out based on different outcomes. I think you'd have to do that this year based on all of the conf changes to get a real sense as to what may happen.

I know for GU, we could easily have a pretty bad OOC record, but if we perform in conference, our RPI will be phenomenal. Doubt anyone is playing as many top teams OOC as we are between KU, MSU, O, and the like, but it will probably come down to the "cupcakes". I thought I saw that we're playing fewer 300+rpi teams this year, could be wrong

The thing I'd be worried about is if we have 9-10 losses, generally speaking, teams like that aren't top 4 seeds, even with the brutal schedule. Maybe we could get a 4th seed- but there isn't that much of a difference between a 4 and 5 seed historically.

stever20 wrote:

IamJack wrote:i'm sure one of us here could put together a spreadsheet to try to project things out based on different outcomes. I think you'd have to do that this year based on all of the conf changes to get a real sense as to what may happen.

I know for GU, we could easily have a pretty bad OOC record, but if we perform in conference, our RPI will be phenomenal. Doubt anyone is playing as many top teams OOC as we are between KU, MSU, O, and the like, but it will probably come down to the "cupcakes". I thought I saw that we're playing fewer 300+rpi teams this year, could be wrong

The thing I'd be worried about is if we have 9-10 losses, generally speaking, teams like that aren't top 4 seeds, even with the brutal schedule. Maybe we could get a 4th seed- but there isn't that much of a difference between a 4 and 5 seed historically.

with regard to the Hoyas, i'm not concerned about seeding. This team will gel and work or it won't. It's pretty much binary in my mind that we'll either be a 3/4 seed or a bubble team