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Report: NBA officially proposes lowering draft age to 18

Postby admin » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:54 pm

From USA Today:

This is the first step in formal negotiations to lower the age limit by the 2022 draft. The issue is collectively bargained between the NBA and NBPA, and both sides need to agree to any rule change.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 942228002/
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Re: Report: NBA officially proposes lowering draft age to 18

Postby DudeAnon » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:29 pm

I feel like this would be good for the Big East but bad for College basketball as a whole. You lose out on the generational talents like Zion but stats have shown after the top 10 recruits there is a big drop off. Seeing as we weren't getting those top 10 (pretty much all to UK, Kansas and Duke) we will benefit.
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Re: Report: NBA officially proposes lowering draft age to 18

Postby eye of the jay » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:24 am

I agree, this is definitely great news for the Big East and will increase parity across college basketball. Personally, I hate the one-and-done rule as it hurts kids' potential earnings. I doubt college hoops will suffer as you'll actually have more unpredictability with the tourney and have greater chances of seeing underdog stories advancing far, such as Steph Curry and Gordon Hayward did to catapult their NBA stock. The Aytons, Zion Williamsons, and Anthony Davises of the world can make money right away. It's not like the new BE had many one and dones.

I'm probably missing someone, but other than Spellman and Patton (both redshirted) were there any since realignment who left after 1 year? Whitehead and Dunn both stayed a couple years I know (along w/ Christon and Sumner)
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Re: Report: NBA officially proposes lowering draft age to 18

Postby billyjack » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:47 am

eye of the jay wrote:I agree, this is definitely great news for the Big East and will increase parity across college basketball. Personally, I hate the one-and-done rule as it hurts kids' potential earnings. I doubt college hoops will suffer as you'll actually have more unpredictability with the tourney and have greater chances of seeing underdog stories advancing far, such as Steph Curry and Gordon Hayward did to catapult their NBA stock. The Aytons, Zion Williamsons, and Anthony Davises of the world can make money right away. It's not like the new BE had many one and dones.

I'm probably missing someone, but other than Spellman and Patton (both redshirted) were there any since realignment who left after 1 year? Whitehead and Dunn both stayed a couple years I know (along w/ Christon and Sumner)


I think Ellenson. And maybe Lovett?
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Re: Report: NBA officially proposes lowering draft age to 18

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:10 am

It's better for college basketball, for sure, but I wouldn't be so quick to classify this as a definitive win for the Big East. Our programs, rarely, seek out and recruit one and done players. The blue bloods - UNC, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, etc. - will always get the top ranked players, whether that is a one-and-done player or a four-year player. That happened even before the one-and-done rule was implemented. What I could see happening is a brief dip for these programs as they each look to restock their programs with full four-year players. Right now, each of those programs lack experienced upper class players - Duke has 1 senior, UNC has 2, Kentucky has 1, and Kansas has 1. If the high-impact talent (which is young) moves away, these programs will just adjust the type of players they recruit and cause a ripple effect for the rest of college basketball.

However, to be clear, the Big East programs, generally, do not recruit this type of talent. There are exceptions, of course (Ellenson, Spellman, Patton Lovett), but our programs recruit players that are developed within a system and gain experience to play at a high level. Even with this era of one-and-dones, Big East programs continue to recruit well and compete nationally with the top basketball programs. The recruiting strength of the league will be maintained, but there will just be a widespread adjustment to the number of immediate impact players and create opportunity for programs that are truly able to develop players. I also think programs will be hurt more by players leaving early (whether by not being noticed by scouts, or making substantial jump in a given year) and lacking the availability of immediate impact players. There won't be as much opportunity to restock the fridge as quick as today's landscape has created.
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Re: Report: NBA officially proposes lowering draft age to 18

Postby MarquetteRustler » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:12 am

I'd say it's not good for the Big East. Having all the blue bloods have to reload with one and dones every year gives lesser programs a chance at a competitive advantage with team chemistry and experience. Now all those guys will go pro, and the next tier of recruits will go to the blue bloods and actually stick around for a few years. The lesser programs will have to recruit from the tier below that.
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Re: Report: NBA officially proposes lowering draft age to 18

Postby jbarajas0490 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:27 am

Yea i would also say this is bad for the Big East. The blue bloods will start snapping up all the 4 star players. We will be left with the scraps. It will create more competition for the kind of players say Villanova recruits. They should do some kind of system where they're rights are drafted but they can still play in college if the team that drafted them doesn't think they are ready.
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Re: Report: NBA officially proposes lowering draft age to 18

Postby cu blujs » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:16 pm

I don't disagree with those thoughts. However, what I think is that the number of players who are actually and truly able to take their team to the final four based on his play alone, such as a Zion, are those 8 or so who will skip college. So, although the blue bloods drop down to the next level who might have gone to a BE or other team one step below the bluebloods, the difference in talent between who they take from us and who we in turn sign (if we recruit well) is going to be much smaller than the difference between the talent of the Zions of the world and the rest of the field. So, the spread in talent will be smaller and things like coaching, heart, teamwork, some luck, etc., will play a bigger role. Also, those guys who will now be targeted by Duke, NC, etc., are still probably thinking one and done or, for those like Justin Patton, who weren't thinking it but blew up to that status as a freshman are still going to be bailing. In other words many of those top kids who now end up at Duke, NC, KS etc. are still going to look at going pro ASAP, even if he didn't go straight to the pros or contemplate being a one and done when he signed.
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Re: Report: NBA officially proposes lowering draft age to 18

Postby billyjack » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:36 pm

DudeAnon wrote:I feel like this would be good for the Big East but bad for College basketball as a whole. You lose out on the generational talents like Zion but stats have shown after the top 10 recruits there is a big drop off. Seeing as we weren't getting those top 10 (pretty much all to UK, Kansas and Duke) we will benefit.


Yeah, i think you're right that it will help us. Like you said, outside of the one-and-dones, there is a dropoff. Also, Duke and Kentucky won't have the same amount of openings that they've now been having each year, so they can't re-load the same way and hog too many of the top remaining players.
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