Top 25- Getting & Staying Ranked (2018-19)

[adoraz]

Even though I am from the "two"......

We are a league of "ten"......

Getting 4 to 6 bids shows the strength of the conference.....

Not having two top heavy teams....

Long term bad for the conference.....

And they will use "NET" against us......

I'd understand if you posted that in the NET thread, however, in the AP thread it doesn't make sense. In terms of public perception, having two teams ranked #10 & #14 is a lot better than having 1 team ranked around #20 with 3 teams RV like we did at the start of BE play. Casual fans have no idea which teams are "RV"... I don't even know who is this week. Strength of a conference is seen by what teams are at the top and where they are ranked.

If we get only 2 teams into the Tournament then sure, I'd agree with your point, but that's a separate topic. There's no way to spin the AP poll as a bad thing for the league.

[vtwarrior]

I am posting it here because no other teams besides "the two".....

Not one team....Got a single vote.....

That is not good.....

[stever20]

stever doesn't even think it's a bad thing for the league.

AP poll doesn't get teams in the tourney. Right now if season ended the Big East even with that would get 4 teams in with a real outside shot of 5.

[adoraz]

I am posting it here because no other teams besides "the two".....

Not one team....Got a single vote.....

That is not good.....

This isn't exactly news lol. Nobody else deserves a vote and we have 4 bubble teams right now. What is news is that Marquette and Nova moved up. When was the last time Marquette was a top 10 team?

Just seems that all your posts are negative, which is odd for a fan of a team that is ranked #10 nationally. If I were you I'd be thrilled and wouldn't care if the league got 2-3 bids as long as you were a top seed. I don't think you're being genuine in that you'd prefer to lose to help bubble teams get in. That'd be a really weird position for a fan to have.

[MUBoxer]

I am posting it here because no other teams besides "the two".....

Not one team....Got a single vote.....

That is not good.....

This isn't exactly news lol. Nobody else deserves a vote and we have 4 bubble teams right now. What is news is that Marquette and Nova moved up. When was the last time Marquette was a top 10 team?

Just seems that all your posts are negative, which is odd for a fan of a team that is ranked #10 nationally. If I were you I'd be thrilled and wouldn't care if the league got 2-3 bids as long as you were a top seed. I don't think you're being genuine in that you'd prefer to lose to help bubble teams get in. That'd be a really weird position for a fan to have.

March 2012 was the last time we were ranked in the top 10, we've spent 20 total weeks in the top 10 amongst 6 seasons in this century.

I don't think any MU fan would prefer to lose to help the bubble teams, gladly would let Nova fall on that sword though lol

[adoraz]

I am posting it here because no other teams besides "the two".....

Not one team....Got a single vote.....

That is not good.....

This isn't exactly news lol. Nobody else deserves a vote and we have 4 bubble teams right now. What is news is that Marquette and Nova moved up. When was the last time Marquette was a top 10 team?

Just seems that all your posts are negative, which is odd for a fan of a team that is ranked #10 nationally. If I were you I'd be thrilled and wouldn't care if the league got 2-3 bids as long as you were a top seed. I don't think you're being genuine in that you'd prefer to lose to help bubble teams get in. That'd be a really weird position for a fan to have.

March 2012 was the last time we were ranked in the top 10, we've spent 20 total weeks in the top 10 amongst 6 seasons in this century.

I don't think any MU fan would prefer to lose to help the bubble teams, gladly would let Nova fall on that sword though lol

Yep that's a perfectly reasonable viewpoint to have.

I've just been skeptical of VT for a while because:
1. His name implies he is also a fan of VT/ACC, who of course took Buzz. Kind of a weird coincidence. Had Marquette been down this year, would he be mourning for the days of Buzz? Saying Buzz was right all along? Who knows.
2. He doesn't post often and nearly all his posts are very negative. He also has changed narratives recently from complaining about not enough top teams to not enough middle teams.
3. Half his posts are conspiracy theories about the NET and how the Big East is getting screwed over by it since we're not P5 (see point #1), yet he never gives any sort of evidence to support his theory.
4. His posting style ".........." every time makes it seem like he posts here under another account and is trying to differentiate his posting styles.

I could be off, and VT feel free to correct me if I am. I mean, maybe the guy is really a Marquette fan who chooses not to be happy in the midst of an excellent season. I'll just say that 100% of St. John's would take a top 10 season in a heartbeat even if it meant only 1 or 2 other teams made the Tournament. You're in a very good position now and should enjoy it.

[MUBoxer]

Yep that's a perfectly reasonable viewpoint to have.

I've just been skeptical of VT for a while because:
1. His name implies he is also a fan of VT/ACC, who of course took Buzz. Kind of a weird coincidence. Had Marquette been down this year, would he be mourning for the days of Buzz? Saying Buzz was right all along? Who knows.
2. He doesn't post often and nearly all his posts are very negative. He also has changed narratives recently from complaining about not enough top teams to not enough middle teams.
3. Half his posts are conspiracy theories about the NET and how the Big East is getting screwed over by it since we're not P5 (see point #1), yet he never gives any sort of evidence to support his theory.
4. His posting style ".........." every time makes it seem like he posts here under another account and is trying to differentiate his posting styles.

I could be off, and VT feel free to correct me if I am. I mean, maybe the guy is really a Marquette fan who chooses not to be happy in the midst of an excellent season. I'll just say that 100% of St. John's would take a top 10 season in a heartbeat even if it meant only 1 or 2 other teams made the Tournament. You're in a very good position now and should enjoy it.

Not saying he is or isn't but I can say regarding the bolded is that it takes about 5min on MUScoop to see that we have quite a few fans that refuse to be happy. Heck we're "back" for the first time since my senior year of college and there's already a thread speculating about up to 4 transfers after the year.

[kayako]

https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

11 Marquette
17 Nova
ORV St. John's

Johnnies don't have any games left against Marquette or Nova, but a solid finish may get them back in the polls.

[vtwarrior]

Vermont warrior.....

I do still like Buzz though.....

[stever20]

https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

11 Marquette
17 Nova
ORV St. John's

Johnnies don't have any games left against Marquette or Nova, but a solid finish may get them back in the polls.

they have to win out to have any chance- given their remaining schedule
@ 14-12 Providence
16-9 Seton Hall
13-13 Xavier
@ 13-11 DePaul
@ 13-13 Xavier

frankly any loss save for Seton Hall would be a bad loss now. And a Seton Hall loss- there wouldn't be enough left for them to bounce back to get into the top 25. I'd say it'd be 40% them getting into the top 25 winning out now.