POLL - Who wins the 2018-19 BIG EAST regular season?

[stever20]

This thread was created after the "worst day in our conference's 40 year history", where Nova, Marquette and SHU all got blown out. We didn't have any ranked teams.

I have a feeling that all 3 schools (if Hall makes it) will be given higher seeds relative to their NET. It's clear now that the first months for them were flukes. No way they replay some of those teams today and have the same results.

Glad that Nova and Marquette were really able to turn it around, because after our 3-4 start I'd be embarrassed for the league if St. John's were the headliner heading into conference play. It'd be a long couple months with zero ranked teams.

All games are counted equal though.... Just because you finish good doesn't mean that your first month is ignored. Nova is still going to have those 4 OOC losses and they have no Q1a level wins still.... Marquette right now is #20 in the NET and has some Q1a wins. I think they might be a 4 instead of a 5.

Seton Hall I think is pretty much binary. If they make it to 18 wins, they're in the tourney, albeit low, due to their record. If they don't make it to 18, they're out. I don't see Seton Hall if they're only 18-13- being anywhere other than Dayton. Right now, Seton Hall is lucky they have that St John's win, or their backs would be really up against the wall quite frankly.

[adoraz]

This thread was created after the "worst day in our conference's 40 year history", where Nova, Marquette and SHU all got blown out. We didn't have any ranked teams.

I have a feeling that all 3 schools (if Hall makes it) will be given higher seeds relative to their NET. It's clear now that the first months for them were flukes. No way they replay some of those teams today and have the same results.

Glad that Nova and Marquette were really able to turn it around, because after our 3-4 start I'd be embarrassed for the league if St. John's were the headliner heading into conference play. It'd be a long couple months with zero ranked teams.

All games are counted equal though.... Just because you finish good doesn't mean that your first month is ignored. Nova is still going to have those 4 OOC losses and they have no Q1a level wins still.... Marquette right now is #20 in the NET and has some Q1a wins. I think they might be a 4 instead of a 5.

Seton Hall I think is pretty much binary. If they make it to 18 wins, they're in the tourney, albeit low, due to their record. If they don't make it to 18, they're out. I don't see Seton Hall if they're only 18-13- being anywhere other than Dayton. Right now, Seton Hall is lucky they have that St John's win, or their backs would be really up against the wall quite frankly.

I'm purely talking seeding here, rather than whether a team makes the Tournament. I'm pretty sure the selection committee moves teams up or down based on recent performance, injuries, etc. I know I've heard that before. I'm not saying that the first few games will be forgotten, just that they'd be given less weight if these teams finish strong.

Even if that's not true, though... let's just assume Nova dominates BE play and gets a 5 seed rather than a 2. Nova would be that team that "the committee got wrong", and thus everyone would cheer for them and have them going further than their seed line projects.

So really, either way Nova and Marquette are in great positions.

[stever20]

This thread was created after the "worst day in our conference's 40 year history", where Nova, Marquette and SHU all got blown out. We didn't have any ranked teams.

I have a feeling that all 3 schools (if Hall makes it) will be given higher seeds relative to their NET. It's clear now that the first months for them were flukes. No way they replay some of those teams today and have the same results.

Glad that Nova and Marquette were really able to turn it around, because after our 3-4 start I'd be embarrassed for the league if St. John's were the headliner heading into conference play. It'd be a long couple months with zero ranked teams.

All games are counted equal though.... Just because you finish good doesn't mean that your first month is ignored. Nova is still going to have those 4 OOC losses and they have no Q1a level wins still.... Marquette right now is #20 in the NET and has some Q1a wins. I think they might be a 4 instead of a 5.

Seton Hall I think is pretty much binary. If they make it to 18 wins, they're in the tourney, albeit low, due to their record. If they don't make it to 18, they're out. I don't see Seton Hall if they're only 18-13- being anywhere other than Dayton. Right now, Seton Hall is lucky they have that St John's win, or their backs would be really up against the wall quite frankly.

I'm purely talking seeding here, rather than whether a team makes the Tournament. I'm pretty sure the selection committee moves teams up or down based on recent performance, injuries, etc. I know I've heard that before. I'm not saying that the first few games will be forgotten, just that they'd be given less weight if these teams finish strong.

Even if that's not true, though... let's just assume Nova dominates BE play and gets a 5 seed rather than a 2. Nova would be that team that "the committee got wrong", and thus everyone would cheer for them and have them going further than their seed line projects.

So really, either way Nova and Marquette are in great positions.

They used to in the past. Used to be last 12 games was a criteria for selection/seeding. They did away with that I want to say about 10 years ago... I mean if you don't believe that, then why did Oklahoma and Arizona St make the tourney last year?

As far as Nova- right now their problem is that there are from the P5 conferences 11 teams with fewer than 4 losses. And then you have Gonzaga, Houston, and Nevada with 1-2 losses each. And then you have UNC, Texas Tech, and Maryland part of 5 teams with 4 losses. So right now, Nova would be getting a 5-6 seed, and there wouldn't be much talk about the committee getting it wrong. There would be some talk about them being a really dangerous team.

Nova and Marquette will be really interesting to see come Feb 9 when the initial sweet 16 reveal comes from the NCAA selection committee. And then they play each other same day.

[GumbyDamnit!]

Well this poll certainly didn’t age well.

I’m here to shamelessly puff out our collective Nova Nation chests... Thank you Pirates. VU officially has earned at least a share of the BE regular season title. Where are all the weasels who picked us for 5th, 6th or 7th place. Knocking the king off his thrown is not as easy as it looks.

Just messing...I had serious doubts myself, especially after the 3rd loss in a row at X. But we’ve got Jay and it means we always have a chance.