Big East All conference Awards

[hoyahooligan]

Let's see, according to hoyahooligan, Akinjo gets FOY over Zegarowski (and he might) because---?--- he plays for Georgetown? Look at all the non FT shooting percentages for the two players and Z is clearly superior. He makes almost the same number of baskets per game while taking 3 less shots per game than Akinjo----3. Akinjo scores more because he shoots more. Akinjo has more assists, but also more TOs. If Akinjo gets the award, it's because he is flashier.( I think he has great potential and will be a great player in the future) Also Govan is better than Krampelj because nobody game plans for Krampelj? Every coach in the league has a plan to stop the pick and roll, it's just hard to do. I don't disagree with the selection of Govan, just the omission of Krampelj, who should be on one of the teams.

1) Akinjo average more points, and assists that's all the voters are going to be looking at But even if they looked closer they'd come to the same conclusion that Akinjo is better.
2) Z is not better at everything besides FT shooting. Akinjo's assist rate blows his out of the water 31.3 (33.5 in conference 1st in the conference compared to 21.3(21.9 in conference) Akinjo's FT rate and Fouls drawn rate is also much higher. He impacts the game in more ways. He puts more pressure on the defense. In conference play akinjo also shot better from the 3pt line in addition to shooting better from the FT line as you pointed out. In conference play akinjo also had a better defensive rebounding % though slightly worse offensive rebounding numbers. Akinjo's turnover rate(17.6) is actually lower in conference than Zegarowski's(19.3). SO no Akinjo is better almost across the board.
3) The only thing Akinjo does right now poorly is shoot 2pters and that's because he hasn't learned he cannot challenge the trees effectively yet. That brought his overall deficiency numbers down.
4) yes he has more flash and that counts for awards again arguments can be made it shouldn't but it definitely influences people.
5) Kramelj is on one of the teams he's just not first or second team.

[jfan]

Sorry, completely disagree that the voters must agree with you. Akinjo shot .308 in league play, which is very bad and which doesn't make him better almost across the board. Z shot .417. So things are not as clear as you would like everyone to believe. I didn't say Z was better at everything beside FT shooting, I said he was better at shooting except for FT. If we are just going by league play, why isn't Krampelj on one of the teams? And no, Honorable Mention isn't a team! In any case, from what I've seen, Reeves might end as the best of the bunch, although his injury clearly has impacted things in league play.

[scoscox]

Creighton is the only team without a 1st or 2nd teamer. In my humble opinion, M Krampelj should have been at least 2nd team. In BE play, he shot .601 from the field ---.366 from three---.727 for FT with averages of 16.7 PPG and 8.2 RPG. Numbers much better than some players that made the teams. The coaches got this one wrong!

Who would you have him replace?

[Omaha1]

I look at it as the Jays had two players among top 13. Not too bad.

[jfan]

Creighton is the only team without a 1st or 2nd teamer. In my humble opinion, M Krampelj should have been at least 2nd team. In BE play, he shot .601 from the field ---.366 from three---.727 for FT with averages of 16.7 PPG and 8.2 RPG. Numbers much better than some players that made the teams. The coaches got this one wrong!

Who would you have him replace?

No good can come from me answering that one! But, if you compare Krampelj to the 2nd teamers, his offensive efficiency numbers are better than any other player that made the team. He also averaged 8.2 RPG in league play. I just think he was overlooked. They had 6 on the 1st team, they could have had 6 on the second team!

[chicagojayfan]

Creighton is the only team without a 1st or 2nd teamer. In my humble opinion, M Krampelj should have been at least 2nd team. In BE play, he shot .601 from the field ---.366 from three---.727 for FT with averages of 16.7 PPG and 8.2 RPG. Numbers much better than some players that made the teams. The coaches got this one wrong!

Who would you have him replace?

No good can come from me answering that one! But, if you compare Krampelj to the 2nd teamers, his offensive efficiency numbers are better than any other player that made the team. He also averaged 8.2 RPG in league play. I just think he was overlooked. They had 6 on the 1st team, they could have had 6 on the second team!

Nothing good is going to come of putting out names in this thread, but people can do their own analysis of the numbers and of the subjective side of how the players performed (in particular Defensively).

For example, here are Govan and Krampelj's numbers in Conference per 40:
Govan: 22.4 pts, 10.1 rebounds, 1.6 assists, 1.0 steals, 1.9 blocks, 2.3 turnovers, .549 TS%, .508 efG%
Martin: 22.8 pts, 11.2 rebounds, 1.2 assists, 2.0 steals, 1.3 blocks, 2.1 turnovers, .669 TS%, .643 eFG%

A bit surprising, although as noted, more teams focused on Govan and there were fewer penalties for doubling Govan than Krampalj (i.e., who do you double off of without fearing an easy 3 pt shot?)

But the offensive numbers don't tell all the story -- Defense is the biggest difference for Krampelj this year. He's an entirely different defensive player this year, and can hedge and recover and completely disrupt the other team's guard play and flow beyond the top of the key (as he did in the last Georgetown game). In comparison, one could watch the Georgetown- SMU game or the Creighton games to see Govan's play when trying to hedge and recover. This isn't to say that Govan shouldn't be on the first team, but to offer a legitimate comparison for Krampelj.

[scoscox]

Tbh I wouldn’t have had a huge problem with him over naji. As well as naji played down the stretch, and he was spectacular, he struggled for the first half of the big east season.

[hoyahooligan]

Hey Akinjo it is!

[jfan]

Good for him!

[the1ndonly]

Howard is a very good player and deserving of the award with the stats he put up, but Myles Powell is "most valuable" among the league.