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Postby scoscox » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:34 pm

holy shit what a game. absolute war
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Postby scoscox » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:43 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:“The refs! The refs!” The mantra of every fan base who loses to Nova.

I agree that the last call on Naji should’nt have been called. He should have swallowed that whistle to be honest. But it didn’t affect who won or lost. Would you have wanted that game to be decided with 2 foul shots with no time on the clock? And Naji i fouling out might have helped X as he was 1-12 for the night.

The refs didn’t miss a critical FT like Hankins did. And they didn’t keep Samuels from making that 3, and they didn’t fail to box out Paschall on the follow. So please enough of the refs gave Nova the game. Wah! Wah! Wah!


The missed block out on paschall lost the game and you guys played great.

All I'll say is that it's hard to take not reaching the bonus in either half, especially in an overtime game, with how much we go to the basket and then on the other end for nova to be in the double bonus, but you have to be able to overcome that and we couldn't. Kudos to Nova.
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Re: 2019 Big East Tournament Thread

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:43 pm

There are several things that I will admit:
1. He shouldn’t have made that call
2. Naji was brutal tonight. I was genuinely bummed when he fouled out because I thought that he made a lot poor decisions and couldn’t hit the side of a barn. I figured his injury was affecting him; wasn’t himself and he hurt X more than helped tonight.
3. Take away what should have been a no call that really didn’t affect the outcome (and shouldn’t have). Nova made clutch plays when they needed to. X didn’t. That’s the story of the game.
4. It sucks when you have a lot at stake in March but X has no one to blame but themselves.
- Up 7 with the ball with 4:00 to play Welage shoots an airball
- still up 7 with 3:15 to play X has a shit clock violation after a 25 foot Goodin fade-away 3
- up 4 with 2:30 Naji has Scruggs wide open in the corner but decides to hold it and then chucks a 25 ft brick
- 2:00 mins to play up 2 Scruggs gets to the rim and misses a layup
- 1:00 to play X up 4, and Hankins completely leaves Samuels and allows a wide open 3
- 20 seconds to play and Hankins misses a FT
- 8 seconds and both Scruggs and Naji have position but let Paschall go right past them for the tying tip i
- In OT X allows Nova to have a 5 pt possession because of offensive rebs.; next Nova possession another O board
- Scruggs wide open airball 3
- On the other end another wide open 3 from Samuels; first 3 Nova possessions in OT = 10 pts.
- 45 secs to go down 3 Goodin throws it 10 feet over a wide open Hankins undert the basket. Ballgame.

But yeah, it’s the refs.

I get it. 2-12 since the league formed has to be frustrating. But you guys lost this game on your own.
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Re: 2019 Big East Tournament Thread

Postby scoscox » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:48 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:2. Naji was brutal tonight. I was genuinely bummed when he fouled out because I thought that he made a lot poor decisions and couldn’t hit the side of a barn. I figured his injury was affecting him; wasn’t himself and he hurt X more than helped tonight.
3. Take away what should have been a no call that really didn’t affect the outcome (and shouldn’t have). Nova made clutch plays when they needed to. X didn’t. That’s the story of the game.


Naji was definitely not all the way back in game shape. His defense was great though. Despite his offense we need him out there because he can check 1-5.

I'll give you that nova made the plays down the stretch, but the no call could've and should've been a block. naji was in the air when gillespie slid over and thats a dangerous play where they have to protect the shooter. we didn't make the plays down the stretch but that was an abysmal call and ended up fouling him out.
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Postby GumbyDamnit! » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:56 pm

scoscox wrote:
GumbyDamnit! wrote:2. Naji was brutal tonight. I was genuinely bummed when he fouled out because I thought that he made a lot poor decisions and couldn’t hit the side of a barn. I figured his injury was affecting him; wasn’t himself and he hurt X more than helped tonight.
3. Take away what should have been a no call that really didn’t affect the outcome (and shouldn’t have). Nova made clutch plays when they needed to. X didn’t. That’s the story of the game.


Naji was definitely not all the way back in game shape. His defense was great though. Despite his offense we need him out there because he can check 1-5.

I'll give you that nova made the plays down the stretch, but the no call could've and should've been a block. naji was in the air when gillespie slid over and thats a dangerous play where they have to protect the shooter. we didn't make the plays down the stretch but that was an abysmal call and ended up fouling him out.


I agree that it wAs a terrible call. In that spot you let the players decide. Just should have been a no call. If Naji misses that shot at the buzzer and then is given 2 FT’s to decide the game, that wouldn’t have been justice for two great battling it out in prime time. And for all the “refs gifted Nova a bunch of FT’s” keep in mind that if you take away the last 2 FT’s at the end of OT from Paschall when X had to foul, Nova shot all of 2 FT’s more than X. That’s proof of some big conspiracy?
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Re: 2019 Big East Tournament Thread

Postby scoscox » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:02 pm

Didn't say it was. I have only mild issues with the refs. I think we could've gotten a friendlier whistle, but you have to overcome that and we couldn't. We needed our best player and he just didn't have it tonight.

Let's talk instead about that sequence where paschall punched on hankins, hankins punched on samuels, and then tyrique punched on samuels on the fast break.... whew. this was a big boy game.
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Re: 2019 Big East Tournament Thread

Postby scoscox » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:04 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:I agree that it wAs a terrible call. In that spot you let the players decide. Just should have been a no call.


I disagree slightly there. That's a dangerous play that could've easily injured naji. you have to protect the shooter there.
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Re: 2019 Big East Tournament Thread

Postby Xudash » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:10 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:There are several things that I will admit:
1. He shouldn’t have made that call
2. Naji was brutal tonight. I was genuinely bummed when he fouled out because I thought that he made a lot poor decisions and couldn’t hit the side of a barn. I figured his injury was affecting him; wasn’t himself and he hurt X more than helped tonight.
3. Take away what should have been a no call that really didn’t affect the outcome (and shouldn’t have). Nova made clutch plays when they needed to. X didn’t. That’s the story of the game.
4. It sucks when you have a lot at stake in March but X has no one to blame but themselves.
- Up 7 with the ball with 4:00 to play Welage shoots an airball
- still up 7 with 3:15 to play X has a shit clock violation after a 25 foot Goodin fade-away 3
- up 4 with 2:30 Naji has Scruggs wide open in the corner but decides to hold it and then chucks a 25 ft brick
- 2:00 mins to play up 2 Scruggs gets to the rim and misses a layup
- 1:00 to play X up 4, and Hankins completely leaves Samuels and allows a wide open 3
- 20 seconds to play and Hankins misses a FT
- 8 seconds and both Scruggs and Naji have position but let Paschall go right past them for the tying tip i
- In OT X allows Nova to have a 5 pt possession because of offensive rebs.; next Nova possession another O board
- Scruggs wide open airball 3
- On the other end another wide open 3 from Samuels; first 3 Nova possessions in OT = 10 pts.
- 45 secs to go down 3 Goodin throws it 10 feet over a wide open Hankins undert the basket. Ballgame.

But yeah, it’s the refs.

I get it. 2-12 since the league formed has to be frustrating. But you guys lost this game on your own.


Look. Congrats on the win.

Beyond that, it's your opinion that incident should have been a no-call situation. You also opined that the "refs shouldn't decide close games".

To that I call bullish!t. It was a clear foul on Gillespie. They absolutely affected the outcome, regardless of how the game played out. It can be argued that they did decide it.

Nice bringing up the 2-12. We're going to have to work on that.

Again, good luck in the NCAAT.
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Re: 2019 Big East Tournament Thread

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:13 pm

scoscox wrote:Didn't say it was. I have only mild issues with the refs. I think we could've gotten a friendlier whistle, but you have to overcome that and we couldn't. We needed our best player and he just didn't have it tonight.

Let's talk instead about that sequence where paschall punched on hankins, hankins punched on samuels, and then tyrique punched on samuels on the fast break.... whew. this was a big boy game.


Yeah that was a good couple of minutes.

Goodin had a vicious one late in the game too. Def had an old school BE feel to it.
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Re: 2019 Big East Tournament Thread

Postby stever20 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:14 pm

I despise the logic that refs shouldn't decide close games.

By making a no call, on a play that the other 39 minutes+, what in the hell are they doing? That's right, deciding a close game....
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