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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:08 am


Savannah Jay wrote:https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2019/04/08/college-basketball-2019-2020-preseason-top-25/

#4 Marquette
#6 Villanova
#12 Seton Hall
#19 Xavier
#20 Creighton

kayako wrote:https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/04/09/ncaa-basketball-rankings-early-top-25-kentucky-duke-michigan-state

6 Marquette
7 Nova
15 Seton Hall
-on the cusp-
27 Creighton
28 Xavier

kayako wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26464237/loaded-michigan-state-leads-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20

2 Marquette
5 Nova
12 Seton Hall
-next in line-
28 Creighton
30 Georgetown

Jet915 wrote:Jeff Goodman: https://watchstadium.com/news/preseason-top-25-jeff-goodmans-2019-20-college-basketball-rankings-04-08-2019/

#6 Marquette
#9 Villanova
#12 Seton Hall
#22 Creighton

kayako wrote:CBS's Gary Parrish

7 Marquette
12 Seton Hall
13 Nova
25 Creighton

kayako wrote:USA Today

6 Nova
8 Marquette
19 Seton Hall
21 Creighton

Thanks to kayako for the heavy lifting on this thread. Here’s another one:

Early college basketball rankings: Michigan State leads Andy Katz's Power 36 for 2019-2020 - Andy Katz, NCAA.com - April 15, 2019
5.Marquette
20. Seton Hall
27. Villanova
28. Georgetown
33. Xavier
Under consideration: Wisconsin, Penn State, Georgia, Creighton, Syracuse, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, South Florida
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby kayako » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:06 pm

Fieldhouse Flyer wrote: Early college basketball rankings: Michigan State leads Andy Katz's Power 36 for 2019-2020 - Andy Katz, NCAA.com - April 15, 2019
5.Marquette
20. Seton Hall
27. Villanova
28. Georgetown
33. Xavier
Under consideration: Wisconsin, Penn State, Georgia, Creighton, Syracuse, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, South Florida


It's ridiculous to have Memphis rated higher than Nova.
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby scoscox » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:18 am

kayako wrote:
Fieldhouse Flyer wrote: Early college basketball rankings: Michigan State leads Andy Katz's Power 36 for 2019-2020 - Andy Katz, NCAA.com - April 15, 2019
5.Marquette
20. Seton Hall
27. Villanova
28. Georgetown
33. Xavier
Under consideration: Wisconsin, Penn State, Georgia, Creighton, Syracuse, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, South Florida


It's ridiculous to have Memphis rated higher than Nova.


prolly cause they have a proven head coach and nova doesn't. just my guess...

tbh i don't really understand the logic of georgetown over us either. georgetown would need to take an enormous jump to go from 100th in kenpom this year to 28th.
but, katz is the same guy who picked us to finish 9th last year, so not too surprising
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby CoachK » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:40 pm

scoscox wrote:
kayako wrote:
It's ridiculous to have Memphis rated higher than Nova.


prolly cause they have a proven head coach and nova doesn't. just my guess...


Please explain. Or did I miss a big announcement on Jay Wright?
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby scoscox » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:17 pm

CoachK wrote:
scoscox wrote:
kayako wrote:
It's ridiculous to have Memphis rated higher than Nova.


prolly cause they have a proven head coach and nova doesn't. just my guess...


Please explain. Or did I miss a big announcement on Jay Wright?


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NBC too early prediction

Postby Novachap » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:03 am

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com ... on-top-25/

This is a pretty interesting projection.. 6(Nova), 12 (Hall) 18 (X) and 19 (Creighton). No Marquette----crazy what happened there. also, I think Georgetown is going to be very good next year. Think Nova is too high at 6 for early in the season, but will be there by end of year. The conference is going to be excellent next year gang.
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Re: NBC too early prediction

Postby MUBoxer » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:22 am

Novachap wrote:https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2019/04/23/college-basketball-2019-2020-preseason-top-25/

This is a pretty interesting projection.. 6(Nova), 12 (Hall) 18 (X) and 19 (Creighton). No Marquette----crazy what happened there. also, I think Georgetown is going to be very good next year. Think Nova is too high at 6 for early in the season, but will be there by end of year. The conference is going to be excellent next year gang.


I think that's fair for us. At best some may have us in the 20-25 range but I think our defense will be a lot better losing the Hausers. They'd be fine in a zone but didn't have the quickness for our style. A lot depends on Koby's production.
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby cu blujs » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:55 am

I'm not sold on Marquette being in dire straights. Joey could score, and Sam was o.k. for a freshman (I think, wasn't he?). But, neither was much of a defender on the perimeter. I thought Sam was kind of a wuss, anyway, and kid of TO prone. I think Morrow, and Theo give Marquette a much tougher inside presence, and you aren't going to put two Hausers on the floor, plus those two and Markus. You need a couple of other guys who can guard the 2 and 3 spot with Morrow and Theo on the floor. They also have Bailey, who won't shoot from outside like Sam, but I think has more ability to guard and help inside. So, I think Marquette loses quite a bit in Joey. I think it changes how they play some, perhaps going to more inside game, but with Marcus and perhaps another guard who can also create, rather than two 6'8" stand and shoot guys like the Hausers, Marquette could actually create more scoring to go with Markus. Certainly, their defense will be better, IMO.

As much as I hate Creighton not being able to put even 2 guys bigger than 6'5" on the floor at one time, I think Marquette almost had too many 6'7"-6'8" guys who didn't have the quickness to guard on the perimeter. When you need at least a couple and sometimes 3 6'0 to 6'4 or 5" guys on the floor, there isn't a lot of playing time to spread around for 6 or 7 big guys (would have had 8 6'7" or bigger with the Hausers I think -- Baily, John, Eke, Cain, Morrow, Gardiner and the Hausers). Obviously, I don't know if Eke or Gardiner are legit BE players, but that would have been 6 legit potential contributors I think even without them. That's a lot of guys for 2 spots.

then again, I didn't watch every game of theirs, so I could be all wet.
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby MUBoxer » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:20 am

Think you got Sam and Joey mixed up as Joey was the TO prime freshman Sam was the efficiently scoring jr.
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Re: 2019-20 Predictions

Postby XUFan09 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:29 pm

cu blujs wrote:I'm not sold on Marquette being in dire straights. Joey could score, and Sam was o.k. for a freshman (I think, wasn't he?). But, neither was much of a defender on the perimeter. I thought Sam was kind of a wuss, anyway, and kid of TO prone. I think Morrow, and Theo give Marquette a much tougher inside presence, and you aren't going to put two Hausers on the floor, plus those two and Markus. You need a couple of other guys who can guard the 2 and 3 spot with Morrow and Theo on the floor. They also have Bailey, who won't shoot from outside like Sam, but I think has more ability to guard and help inside. So, I think Marquette loses quite a bit in Joey. I think it changes how they play some, perhaps going to more inside game, but with Marcus and perhaps another guard who can also create, rather than two 6'8" stand and shoot guys like the Hausers, Marquette could actually create more scoring to go with Markus. Certainly, their defense will be better, IMO.

As much as I hate Creighton not being able to put even 2 guys bigger than 6'5" on the floor at one time, I think Marquette almost had too many 6'7"-6'8" guys who didn't have the quickness to guard on the perimeter. When you need at least a couple and sometimes 3 6'0 to 6'4 or 5" guys on the floor, there isn't a lot of playing time to spread around for 6 or 7 big guys (would have had 8 6'7" or bigger with the Hausers I think -- Baily, John, Eke, Cain, Morrow, Gardiner and the Hausers). Obviously, I don't know if Eke or Gardiner are legit BE players, but that would have been 6 legit potential contributors I think even without them. That's a lot of guys for 2 spots.

then again, I didn't watch every game of theirs, so I could be all wet.


I think that while losing one of them wouldn't have been bad, losing both of them hurts. I agree that it would be hard to have them on the floor together, just like it was hard to have Howard and Rowsey on the floor together. Both Howard and Rowsey are good players, but man, they didn't complement each other well. The same could be said of the Howard brothers together.
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