Penny Hardaway not happy UConn is leaving AAC

[scoscox]

Yea that’s one of the all time gaffes. Up there with the reds trading frank robinson

[MUBoxer]

Good for him. Penny and Marshall both coming out against UCONN's departure is a litmus test of what schools are basketball schools n the AAC.

Cincy is too angry and bitter to be as honest as Memphis and Wichita State. The rest are just mediocre, bad and horrible football schools.

To be fair Houston has a b-ball history most this conference would trade for in a heartbeat and temple's program history is no laughing matter either. Not just WSU Memphis and Cinci left.

I would say some, Phi Slamma Jamma was a short stint of excitement. Still pissed St. John's forgot to pick up Olajuwon at JFK. Yes, thats a true story.

https://www.zagsblog.com/2016/10/18/st- ... -olajuwon/

Can you imagine the Ewing/Olajuwon battles in MSG? Him teamed with Mullin! We would have won a championship for sure.

Elvin Hayes also lead them to back to back Final Fours in 67 and 68. Just seams like five final fours and two runner ups is better than 7 or potentially 8 of our histories. Point is it's no joke of a program tradition.

Had no idea about that story, something you can't help but just sort of laugh at at a certain point

[SamElliott]

As he should be. UConn Basketball was a huge draw for all the programs when they entered the league. It was the biggest chip that was used in differentiating the AAC from C-USA; now that UConn is gone, there is no championship-level program to anchor it.

Sadly, someone needs to tell Penny that football drives the bus. BEEP! BEEP!

Golden warrior, Your Marquette was in CUSA.

The biggest chip in differentiating the teams that left the CUSA are the much larger media deals.

Follow the money. There are teams moving up the revenue ladder and teams moving down.

UConn has paid the biggest price.

[Django]

As he should be. UConn Basketball was a huge draw for all the programs when they entered the league. It was the biggest chip that was used in differentiating the AAC from C-USA; now that UConn is gone, there is no championship-level program to anchor it.

Sadly, someone needs to tell Penny that football drives the bus. BEEP! BEEP!

Golden warrior, Your Marquette was in CUSA.

The biggest chip in differentiating the teams that left the CUSA are the much larger media deals.

Follow the money. There are teams moving up the revenue ladder and teams moving down.

UConn has paid the biggest price.

You’re dealing with private school kids here Sam, don’t test your math skills in this classroom.

[VCE]

Our boy stever is in tatters

The thing is, he’s been coaching girls b-ball games ten times as often, so his lower post count on the holyland is actually an increase. And the UConn women leaving the ack is a good thing. You know. Subtraction by Addition says the stever. It’ll surely work out says Stever the Beaver, formerly a Hoyas fan. Enjoy life in your shit aaaaaack conference, son.

[scoscox]

Lol beyond telling people he was a Georgetown fan when pressed I don’t think I’ve seen even a Georgetown related post. Personally I think he’s a temple fan

[GoldenWarrior11]

As he should be. UConn Basketball was a huge draw for all the programs when they entered the league. It was the biggest chip that was used in differentiating the AAC from C-USA; now that UConn is gone, there is no championship-level program to anchor it.

Sadly, someone needs to tell Penny that football drives the bus. BEEP! BEEP!

Golden warrior, Your Marquette was in CUSA.

The biggest chip in differentiating the teams that left the CUSA are the much larger media deals.

Follow the money. There are teams moving up the revenue ladder and teams moving down.

UConn has paid the biggest price.

Marquette was in C-USA, correct. Before that, it was in the Great Midwest Conference, and before that it was in the Midwestern Collegiate Conference. It only joined a basketball conference because independents were becoming extinct. It chose to associate with certain Midwestern Catholic schools like Dayton, DePaul, Saint Louis, Notre Dame, Xavier and Loyola (Chicago) in those leagues; it also chose to associate with elite basketball-first institutions like Louisville, Cincinnati and Memphis. I can assure you that Marquette had very little interest in being associated with the likes of Tulane, ECU, UAB, Southern Mississippi, USF and TCU while in C-USA (who were there for football reasons only). Marquette and Louisville were the only programs to reach a Final Four in C-USA 1.0; Cincinnati belongs up there as well for their top-10 finishes. No other program really finished at a high level like those programs did (which is why they ultimately got invited to the Big East).

The current AAC members (minus UC/USF) only got higher media deals was because they were invited-up out of necessity to the (then) Big East, and because of an association with UConn. Without those three programs (UConn/UC/USF) the AAC is a scavenged C-USA (UCF, Houston, Memphis, SMU, Tulsa, ECU, Tulane) and MAC (Temple). There's a reason why it will continue being associated with the G5 (and not a true P5) conference.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Lol beyond telling people he was a Georgetown fan when pressed I don’t think I’ve seen even a Georgetown related post. Personally I think he’s a temple fan

I believe he is a "hybrid" fan, first and foremost. What I mean by that is that he wanted the hybrid of the Big East to continue with the likes of UCF, Houston, Memphis et al for football, while keeping the basketball schools in tact as well. When the C7 left, he (and many others) viewed that as elitist and entitled, thus the constant need to justify an equality between both conferences always remains. The fact remains that the networks (and fan bases) found more value in separation than remaining together, and it was absolutely without a doubt the right decision. The reality was that there was a negative brand value associated with many (not all) of the new members that were called-up in from 2012-13, and the C7 had the opportunity to forge ahead without football and be free of the ever-constant need from football programs to be associated with a power football conference. UConn, just a few weeks ago, realized this as well, and they will not turn back either.

No matter what data or stats are spun, the Big East has been and will continue to be a superior conference than the AAC. It just is what it is.

[SamElliott]

Marquette was in C-USA, correct.

The current AAC members (minus UC/USF) only got higher media deals was because they were invited-up out of necessity to the (then) Big East, and because of an association with UConn.

I’m not going to argue with you Golden Warrior.

I know both leagues well.

When Louisville, USF, and Cincinnati had the old Big East resources behind them, they were factors rather quickly. It doesn’t matter which sport, the money and exposure put a new engine behind their athletics programs.

Not only them. As you know..

Success in Collegiate athletics is all about revenue and exposure (and coaching). It’s always been that way.

As you pointed out, Marquette has been in a lot of other conferences. Just like the other old CUSA teams. I remember that Marquette team in CUSA well. Marquette is probably more identified with CUSA than most because of the Wade team.

You are right. Having UConn those first 6 years helped the AAC build up to that first contract. UConn put a lot of equity in building up that league. It was likely a factor in bringing Wichita State and brand name coaches into the league. Then, when they played the games, those teams used the Huskies in their post-Calhoun era to build cred.

The UConn that is coming into this conference will need to reconnect to the Calhoun success/results because Houston, Memphis, UCF, etc, have used up a good amount of UConn’s “rep points” to push their own teams forward.

I, for one, enjoy the dynamic ecosystem of college sports. Of course if UConn MBB was coming into the league after a steady number of NCAA appearances, that would be a different statement altogether.

Hopefully UConn can get it going again. I know how it is to lose a coach.

[Django]

Marquette was in C-USA, correct.

The current AAC members (minus UC/USF) only got higher media deals was because they were invited-up out of necessity to the (then) Big East, and because of an association with UConn.

I’m not going to argue with you Golden Warrior.

I know both leagues well.

When Louisville, USF, and Cincinnati had the old Big East resources behind them, they were factors rather quickly. It doesn’t matter which sport, the money and exposure put a new engine behind their athletics programs.

Not only them. As you know..

Success in Collegiate athletics is all about revenue and exposure (and coaching). It’s always been that way.

As you pointed out, Marquette has been in a lot of other conferences. Just like the other old CUSA teams. I remember that Marquette team in CUSA well. Marquette is probably more identified with CUSA than most because of the Wade team.

You are right. Having UConn those first 6 years helped the AAC build up to that first contract. UConn put a lot of equity in building up that league. It was likely a factor in bringing Wichita State and brand name coaches into the league. Then, when they played the games, those teams used the Huskies in their post-Calhoun era to build cred.

The UConn that is coming into this conference will need to reconnect to the Calhoun success/results because Houston, Memphis, UCF, etc, have used up a good amount of UConn’s “rep points” to push their own teams forward.

I, for one, enjoy the dynamic ecosystem of college sports. Of course if UConn MBB was coming into the league after a steady number of NCAA appearances, that would be a different statement altogether.

Hopefully UConn can get it going again. I know how it is to lose a coach.

Hey Sam you think Aresco caught the Team USA scrimmage in Providence this evening? Big East looked damn good.

Also wondering what team yer a fan of