(3) Tuesday Big East Games 12/3/19

[Edrick]

Thompson has been one of best point guards in the country, if you were looking for a main cause. And with the way he does it, that’s unlikely to change.

Butler has trailed 24 minutes of 320 played this year. You don’t get that type of crazy consistency without that position playing that way

[stever20]

Thompson has been one of best point guards in the country, if you were looking for a main cause. And with the way he does it, that’s unlikely to change.

Butler has trailed 24 minutes of 320 played this year. You don’t get that type of crazy consistency without that position playing that way

I see Saturday as a HUGE game for Butler vs Florida. After that 2 pretty tough games- @ Baylor and vs Purdue. Not really sure what your resume has on it right now- just quite how good the wins are. Home with Minnesota, neutral with Missouri and Stanford, and @ Ole Miss. I guess Ole Miss should be a Q1 top 75 win fairly easily- they are 5-3 with no bad losses. Thought the Missouri win would be good, but then last night. Stanford- who knows because their schedule hasn't been good at all- only 2 good games were the tournament for them. Minnesota if you're lucky top 75 Q2 win. So these next 2 games and then Purdue are big IMO to solidify that resume.

[gtmoBlue]

Butler's McDermott? He got nicked up the other day. Is he okay?

[adoraz]

Butler's RPI is now 21, and I think their NET would be even better. Their 4 cupcake games were all won by 10+. As for the other 4: vs Minnesota was an 8 point win, vs Missouri (neutral) 11 points (10+), vs Stanford (neutral) 1 point and @ Ole Miss 9 points. The only one of those 8 that the NET wouldn't reward (relative to RPI) would be the 1 point win vs Stanford, but even that is still a great Q1/Q2 win.

I'd guess their NET would currently be around #10-15, but even better than that wouldn't shock me. Shame that the NCAA keeps the formula hidden.

[GumbyDamnit!]

Butler doing Butler things. I really appreciate them as a member program. They play the game the right way—very good defense as the foundation, excellent guard play, clutch shooting and gritty overall play. Just a tough out. Tip of the cap to Jordan for getting his squad playing like we expect of this program.

2 of the 3 teams expected to finish near the bottom of the conference (BU and DePaul) as the early stars of our collective OOC. Take a look at the supposed “bottom” tier of any conference and none have had the kinds of wins that these two have had. We may not be as top heavy as other conferences but damn we’re deep this year.

[stever20]

Butler's RPI is now 21, and I think their NET would be even better. Their 4 cupcake games were all won by 10+. As for the other 4: vs Minnesota was an 8 point win, vs Missouri (neutral) 11 points (10+), vs Stanford (neutral) 1 point and @ Ole Miss 9 points. The only one of those 8 that the NET wouldn't reward (relative to RPI) would be the 1 point win vs Stanford, but even that is still a great Q1/Q2 win.

I'd guess their NET would currently be around #10-15, but even better than that wouldn't shock me. Shame that the NCAA keeps the formula hidden.

Their KP has jumped from 33-18.

Big thing is 2 neutral and 1 road wins.

[adoraz]

Butler's RPI is now 21, and I think their NET would be even better. Their 4 cupcake games were all won by 10+. As for the other 4: vs Minnesota was an 8 point win, vs Missouri (neutral) 11 points (10+), vs Stanford (neutral) 1 point and @ Ole Miss 9 points. The only one of those 8 that the NET wouldn't reward (relative to RPI) would be the 1 point win vs Stanford, but even that is still a great Q1/Q2 win.

I'd guess their NET would currently be around #10-15, but even better than that wouldn't shock me. Shame that the NCAA keeps the formula hidden.

Their KP has jumped from 33-18.

Big thing is 2 neutral and 1 road wins.

Yeah, I think their KenPom ranking for this year alone would be even better than #18, given that it still has a lot of the pre-season expectation built in. If their pre-season expectation was #33, then their actual KP for the games played should be better than #18. Wish they had a way to view the numbers without expectations included.

[sju88grad]

Butler's RPI is now 21, and I think their NET would be even better. Their 4 cupcake games were all won by 10+. As for the other 4: vs Minnesota was an 8 point win, vs Missouri (neutral) 11 points (10+), vs Stanford (neutral) 1 point and @ Ole Miss 9 points. The only one of those 8 that the NET wouldn't reward (relative to RPI) would be the 1 point win vs Stanford, but even that is still a great Q1/Q2 win.

I'd guess their NET would currently be around #10-15, but even better than that wouldn't shock me. Shame that the NCAA keeps the formula hidden.

Their KP has jumped from 33-18.

Big thing is 2 neutral and 1 road wins.

Yeah, I think their KenPom ranking for this year alone would be even better than #18, given that it still has a lot of the pre-season expectation built in. If their pre-season expectation was #33, then their actual KP for the games played should be better than #18. Wish they had a way to view the numbers without expectations included.

When the Big East schedule was released, I was happy SJU was starting off with a home game against Butler. Based on the preseason predictions, I thought maybe this was one game the Johnnies could steal. Now, I'm wishing we were starting with someone else!

Also, I thought it was strange that SJU scheduled DePaul at the Garden. Maybe the administration was ahead of the curve on DePaul's breakout season!

[stever20]

Butler's RPI is now 21, and I think their NET would be even better. Their 4 cupcake games were all won by 10+. As for the other 4: vs Minnesota was an 8 point win, vs Missouri (neutral) 11 points (10+), vs Stanford (neutral) 1 point and @ Ole Miss 9 points. The only one of those 8 that the NET wouldn't reward (relative to RPI) would be the 1 point win vs Stanford, but even that is still a great Q1/Q2 win.

I'd guess their NET would currently be around #10-15, but even better than that wouldn't shock me. Shame that the NCAA keeps the formula hidden.

Their KP has jumped from 33-18.

Big thing is 2 neutral and 1 road wins.

Yeah, I think their KenPom ranking for this year alone would be even better than #18, given that it still has a lot of the pre-season expectation built in. If their pre-season expectation was #33, then their actual KP for the games played should be better than #18. Wish they had a way to view the numbers without expectations included.

true, but even with that, it's better than the #21. Looking at Sagarin, they are #22(still have some last year baked in). SOS right now 167. I think they go up a bit from RPI, but maybe only up to around #15. Of course 2 big games before NET is revealed so that'll change things.