Tournament shares sans Tournament

The home for Big East hoops

Tournament shares sans Tournament

Postby Edrick » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:20 am

The NCAA Tournament media rights are already bought and paid for. Furthermore we know exactly how many games (regardless of whether they happen or not) serve as the denominator for the shares.

The question is what do you do if the games do not happen?

What would seem to be the most 'fair' is to have the Selection regardless and simply allocate the shares using the distribution.

I honestly have no idea what they'd do though
User avatar
Edrick
 
Posts: 884
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:06 am

Tournament shares sans Tournament

Sponsor

Sponsor
 

Re: Tournament shares sans Tournament

Postby gtmoBlue » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:32 am

NCAA is between a rock and a hard place. Yes, there is a current contract in place. However, I doubt that CBS/Turner has paid out this year's installment in advance.
Need the tourney to receive this season's TV revenue stream from CBS/Turner.
No NCAA Tourney - no Check from CBS.

As for earning Units. Teams will get new units if the tourney is played (with or without fans in the stands). No tourney - no new units.
Previous years units will continue to be paid out of those years Basketball Fund pots.

2019 Tourney Revenues ($933 Million - $1+ Billion), 2019 Basketball Fund (approx $370 Million), 4% for Op Expenses (approx $37-40 Million).
Hopefully, the NCAA has lied previously and has held back monies from last years' tourney. They routinely state that they dole out the
remaining monies to all Div 1 institutions (approx $526 Million 2019 tourney). If the association actually gave out those funds, they will be broke should this tournament be cancelled.
Last edited by gtmoBlue on Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:12 pm, edited 2 times in total.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Nicholas Klein (1918)
"Top tier teams rarely have true "down" years and find a way to stay relevant every year." - Adoraz

Creighton
User avatar
gtmoBlue
 
Posts: 2767
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:59 am
Location: Latam

Re: Tournament shares sans Tournament

Postby XUFan09 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:52 am

Yeah, athletic departments across the country are going to be wrecked financially if the tournament is canceled.
Gangsters in the locker room
XUFan09
 
Posts: 1463
Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:07 pm

Re: Tournament shares sans Tournament

Postby redmen9194 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:30 pm

Tournament is going to be cancelled. The major conferences cancelled their tournaments - the NCAA can't go forward.
User avatar
redmen9194
 
Posts: 1434
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:46 am

Re: Tournament shares sans Tournament

Postby stever20 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:37 pm

redmen9194 wrote:Tournament is going to be cancelled. The major conferences cancelled their tournaments - the NCAA can't go forward.


not just major conferences- only 2 that are left that didn't cancel so far- MAAC and MEAC. And they still have until like 6pm to cancel today.
stever20
 
Posts: 13488
Joined: Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:43 pm

Re: Tournament shares sans Tournament

Postby DeltaV » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:21 pm

XUFan09 wrote:Yeah, athletic departments across the country are going to be wrecked financially if the tournament is canceled.


I heard on a sports talk radio that (at least some) conferences have insurance to cover the money if it isn't distributed for some reason or other. The main reason it was being discussed was because some minor D1 conference didn't have the insurance (or at least the proper rider for a pandemic).

I'd assume there is something covering the Big East, Madison Square Garden, the NCAA, and CBS/partners. The only problem is, how many companies offer those policies? Probably not a lot...and if there are a ton of claims, along with all the other sports events making claims as well, how long will they stay solvent?
'Nova MechE, Swimming
User avatar
DeltaV
 
Posts: 547
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:43 pm

Re: Tournament shares sans Tournament

Postby Savannah Jay » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:25 am

DeltaV wrote:
XUFan09 wrote:Yeah, athletic departments across the country are going to be wrecked financially if the tournament is canceled.


I heard on a sports talk radio that (at least some) conferences have insurance to cover the money if it isn't distributed for some reason or other. The main reason it was being discussed was because some minor D1 conference didn't have the insurance (or at least the proper rider for a pandemic).

I'd assume there is something covering the Big East, Madison Square Garden, the NCAA, and CBS/partners. The only problem is, how many companies offer those policies? Probably not a lot...and if there are a ton of claims, along with all the other sports events making claims as well, how long will they stay solvent?


There are a number of insurance carriers that offer an "event cancellation" insurance policy...including some of the biggest carriers in the US/World (like AIG and Chubb). I would guess that the Big East carries a policy for the tournament. This instance could be problematic, though, as a communicable disease/transmissable pathogen outbreak usually requires that outbreak happen on the insured premises, though it's possible that any conference would negotiate a broader coverage trigger that would include something like an epidemic/pandemic not specific to the premises (for example, the coverage trigger could be a shutdown by civil authority, as the city of NY banned all gatherings of more than 200 people yesterday, i believe).
Savannah Jay
 
Posts: 573
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:47 am

Re: Tournament shares sans Tournament

Postby Edrick » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:15 am

Can always trust that someone from Omaha is going to know the insurance question.
User avatar
Edrick
 
Posts: 884
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:06 am

Re: Tournament shares sans Tournament

Postby gtmoBlue » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:06 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:NCAA is between a rock and a hard place. Yes, there is a current contract in place. However, I doubt that CBS/Turner has paid out this year's installment in advance.
Need the tourney to receive this season's TV revenue stream from CBS/Turner.
No NCAA Tourney - no Check from CBS.

As for earning Units. Teams will get new units if the tourney is played (with or without fans in the stands). No tourney - no new units.
Previous years units will continue to be paid out of those years Basketball Fund pots.

2019 Tourney Revenues ($933 Million - $1+ Billion), 2019 Basketball Fund (approx $370 Million), 4% for Op Expenses (approx $37-40 Million).
Hopefully, the NCAA has lied previously and has held back monies from last years' tourney. They routinely state that they dole out the
remaining monies to all Div 1 institutions (approx $526 Million 2019 tourney). If the association actually gave out those funds, they will be broke should this tournament be cancelled.



NCAA has tourney insurance... https://www.si.com/college/2020/03/13/n ... ey-revenue
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Nicholas Klein (1918)
"Top tier teams rarely have true "down" years and find a way to stay relevant every year." - Adoraz

Creighton
User avatar
gtmoBlue
 
Posts: 2767
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:59 am
Location: Latam


Return to Big East basketball message board

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests