Xavier AD says expanding to 12 schools within 5 years

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Postby booyah » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:08 am

The theory is - the AAC's TV contract with ESPN is really horrible, and its for all sports. Plus there are caveats in it that kick in if certain teams leave - say for example Cincy joining the Big 12.

To ward off being in a further gutted AAC, UConn could join the Big East for all sports but football. The NCAA has a caveat for teams to park sports not offered by their main conference (here - football) into a second conference. The AAC could try to bluff its way into making UConn believe it wouldnt allow a football only UConn in its conference, but realistically, its not like the AAC has a choice - UConn is going to be their premier football program after Louisville leaves.

Again - theory only. Will it actually happen? who knows. Probably depends on a bunch of moving parts.
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Postby cm5yz6 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:12 am

booyah wrote:The theory is - the AAC's TV contract with ESPN is really horrible, and its for all sports. Plus there are caveats in it that kick in if certain teams leave - say for example Cincy joining the Big 12.

To ward off being in a further gutted AAC, UConn could join the Big East for all sports but football. The NCAA has a caveat for teams to park sports not offered by their main conference (here - football) into a second conference. The AAC could try to bluff its way into making UConn believe it wouldnt allow a football only UConn in its conference, but realistically, its not like the AAC has a choice - UConn is going to be their premier football program after Louisville leaves.

Again - theory only. Will it actually happen? who knows. Probably depends on a bunch of moving parts.


Who makes more money per team, the Big East or the AAC?
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Re: Xavier AD says expanding to 12 schools within 5 years

Postby booyah » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:16 am

Big East by a landslide. And thats even without Football. I'm too lazy to look it up but a little googling should find it for you. The AAC is definitely not being paid as a big boy conference.
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Re: Xavier AD says expanding to 12 schools within 5 years

Postby cm5yz6 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:36 am

booyah wrote:Big East by a landslide. And thats even without Football. I'm too lazy to look it up but a little googling should find it for you. The AAC is definitely not being paid as a big boy conference.


Yeah, but we have to consider the exit fee money (nearly ~$70M) that will be dished out over the subsequent years (which UConn, in addition to USF and Cinci, will be getting the majority of). Add that in and it may change the perspective. I am, of course, assuming that is UConn leaves, they leave the exit fee $.
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Re: Xavier AD says expanding to 12 schools within 5 years

Postby TheHall » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:06 am

I can't recall one school that has wanted to switch conference that hasn't done so because of exit fees...Whatever the amount it can always be litigated but somehow something has always been worked out for schools that want to leave to be able to do so.
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Re: Xavier AD says expanding to 12 schools within 5 years

Postby cm5yz6 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:11 am

TheHall wrote:I can't recall one school that has wanted to switch conference that hasn't done so because of exit fees...Whatever the amount it can always be litigated but somehow something has always been worked out for schools that want to leave to be able to do so.


I meant the exit fees that UConn will RECEIVE ... there has never been a situation like this (brought on by the mass evacuation of the old Big East). There is essentially $70M to split between 3 or 4 schools and the rest of the newcommers to the AAC get a small amount
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Re: Xavier AD says expanding to 12 schools within 5 years

Postby TheHall » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:23 am

cm5yz6 wrote:
TheHall wrote:I can't recall one school that has wanted to switch conference that hasn't done so because of exit fees...Whatever the amount it can always be litigated but somehow something has always been worked out for schools that want to leave to be able to do so.


I meant the exit fees that UConn will RECEIVE ... there has never been a situation like this (brought on by the mass evacuation of the old Big East). There is essentially $70M to split between 3 or 4 schools and the rest of the newcommers to the AAC get a small amount


Oh ok good point but on that remember the Xavier AD said the expansion window is roughly five years...That 70 mil will be a lot less if not gone by that time. That was hush money, not a cash cow like a tv contract. They don't have their cash cow yet.
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Re: Xavier AD says expanding to 12 schools within 5 years

Postby Jet915 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:52 am

booyah wrote:Big East by a landslide. And thats even without Football. I'm too lazy to look it up but a little googling should find it for you. The AAC is definitely not being paid as a big boy conference.


The Big East teams are making somewhere between 4-5 million per team from Fox. The AAC is getting like 2-3 million a year per team for basketball AND football.
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Re: Xavier AD says expanding to 12 schools within 5 years

Postby cm5yz6 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:41 am

Jet915 wrote:
booyah wrote:Big East by a landslide. And thats even without Football. I'm too lazy to look it up but a little googling should find it for you. The AAC is definitely not being paid as a big boy conference.


The Big East teams are making somewhere between 4-5 million per team from Fox. The AAC is getting like 2-3 million a year per team for basketball AND football.


plus the exist fees for all those schools that left (~$70M) split between essentially UConn, Cinci, & USF
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Re: Xavier AD says expanding to 12 schools within 5 years

Postby Bill Marsh » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:56 am

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But unless Fox is going to pay the travel fees for all the other Non-Revenue sports, the West Coast isn't possible.

BTW, Screw UCONN, the point is that schools with football should be considered.


That's the whole point. The $4-5 million per school that Fox is paying will cover the other sports. What do you think that Gonzaga's revenue is now?
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