Xavier AD says expanding to 12 schools within 5 years

[MixingBowlSpider]

4. Richmond coming off the CBI and 3 tournament bids in the past 15 years

For the record, Richmond has 4 NCAA bids and 3 NCAA wins in the last 16 years.

You've also cherry picked a time period during which we had Jerry Wainwright as coach.

A belated thank you to DePaul for taking care of that problem for us.

[augkash]

Dayton is really putting together a good recruiting classes. That's something you got to consuder. They just got two verbals this week 4 star player and 6"11 270 player that had offers from Pitt Prudue and Kansas st

[ArmyVet]

Dayton is really putting together a good recruiting classes. That's something you got to consuder. They just got two verbals this week 4 star player and 6"11 270 player that had offers from Pitt Prudue and Kansas st

I'm not trying to be rude and I respect your thoughts but the decision to add or not add Dayton isn't going to be influenced by their 2014 recruiting class short of them winning a national title in the next 2-3 years.

[Bill Marsh]

4. Richmond coming off the CBI and 3 tournament bids in the past 15 years

For the record, Richmond has 4 NCAA bids and 3 NCAA wins in the last 16 years.

You've also cherry picked a time period during which we had Jerry Wainwright as coach.

A belated thank you to DePaul for taking care of that problem for us.

I didn't cherry pick anything. My thought process certainly didn't revolve around richmond.

When it comes to the best of what else is out there in the non-football world of college basketball, Gonzaga is the gold standard with their 15 straight tournament appearances. That's where the 15 year time frame came from.

If you have to go back more than 15 years to demonstrate your program's prowess, you're in deep trouble. Do you really think going back to year 16 changes the picture?

[augkash]

Dayton is really putting together a good recruiting classes. That's something you got to consuder. They just got two verbals this week 4 star player and 6"11 270 player that had offers from Pitt Prudue and Kansas st

I'm not trying to be rude and I respect your thoughts but the decision to add or not add Dayton isn't going to be influenced by their 2014 recruiting class short of them winning a national title in the next 2-3 years.

Funny thing is you got 30 pages of debate here but I would bet anything the Big East already knows who the 2 schools are

[Moliva]

If you have to go back more than 15 years to demonstrate your program's prowess, you're in deep trouble. Do you really think going back to year 16 changes the picture?

As it relates to this conversation, how would you define 'deep trouble'?

[Bill Marsh]

If you have to go back more than 15 years to demonstrate your program's prowess, you're in deep trouble. Do you really think going back to year 16 changes the picture?

As it relates to this conversation, how would you define 'deep trouble'?

Not being a viable candidate.

[Bill Marsh]

Dayton is really putting together a good recruiting classes. That's something you got to consuder. They just got two verbals this week 4 star player and 6"11 270 player that had offers from Pitt Prudue and Kansas st

I'm not trying to be rude and I respect your thoughts but the decision to add or not add Dayton isn't going to be influenced by their 2014 recruiting class short of them winning a national title in the next 2-3 years.

Funny thing is you got 30 pages of debate here but I would bet anything the Big East already knows who the 2 schools are

Then what have they gained by waiting? Why not go to 12 right away?

[BEwannabe]

the graphs are great but unless they're populated with relevant data they simply add ?'s. taking quick peak at historical rpi over the last 3-4 seasons my gut says the "A" scenario would seem unlikely as the league woul be dragged down by some poor rpi's in the 7-10 slots, remember you have to play each of those 2 teams twice as well. That's 1 of the reasons for 12 and if this manifests itself this season the powers will move to 12 in a hurry. Somone with a lot of time on their hands could run these numbers for the last 3-4 seasons and you'd at least know where historically you'd fall but those rpi's will be somewhat inflated because they include games against high rpi teams that moving forward are not on NBE schedules.

[Bostonspider]

Then what have they gained by waiting? Why not go to 12 right away?

If I recall from prior to the actual original expansion, it was rumored that the new Big East did not want to completely decimate the A10 by taking 4 teams in the same year that the conference was already losing Temple and Charlotte. Take two, let them reload, and then a couple of years later take two more. Also setting up the conference with only 3 new members was an easier transition. Finally when they now invite two new schools, they get to charge them a couple million dollar in entrance fees.