Syracuse-Georgetown Exploring 10 Year Series Deal

[stever20]

This is a great rivalry so it's probably nice that it's continuing. Fox probably doesn't mind getting to show this game every other year.

Wouldn't be shocked if this game wound up on CBS quite a few times-if not yearly- similar to the Louisville/Kentucky games.

[GumbyDamnit!]

Man, this is a tough one and Nova now has Syracuse on its schedule for the next 2 years. Boeheim has absolutely fleeced Philly of its top players over the years: Scoop Jardine and Rick Jackson, Rakeem Christmas, Dion Waiters, Hakeem Warrick, etc, etc. And we've had some epic battles down in the WF Center / Spectrum over the years. I'm a BE purist so I'd hate not seeing a game each year with Syracuse, and I would imagine the G'town fans would say the same. But to be honest, let's call Syracuse what it is: a BE traitor. They are no better than Boston " Fredo" College. If they cared about the traditional rivalries then they never should have jumped at the first offer from the ACC to chase the almighty FB $. We are a proud basketball conference and any school that choses its FB future over their basketball one should no longer get to dictate any terms. I'll miss Syracuse but I'd be just as happy if Nova scheduled Kansas or Ohio State or Florida this year OOC instead of Syracuse. The wounds are still too fresh and let's face it, I see the ACC as our new conference rival in hoops. Why help them at all? The big question is do you think Syracuse is clamoring to play Gtwn, Nova and SJU to keep rivaliries in place or are they just serving their own recruiting interests? If the latter, I say: "Screw ' Em!"

Syracuse is a national program so I am not sure how much it would affect them if they didn't have games in Philly, DC and NYC. But I'd sure like to find out. Would LOVE it if their program followed BC and WVU (and hopefully Pitt) into college hoops obscurity when kids start realizing that FB drives the bus at these Power 5 conference schools, and they don't get the same # of kids from the NE corridor any longer.

[TheHall]

Man, this is a tough one and Nova now has Syracuse on its schedule for the next 2 years. Boeheim has absolutely fleeced Philly of its top players over the years: Scoop Jardine and Rick Jackson, Rakeem Christmas, Dion Waiters, Hakeem Warrick, etc, etc. And we've had some epic battles down in the WF Center / Spectrum over the years. I'm a BE purist so I'd hate not seeing a game each year with Syracuse, and I would imagine the G'town fans would say the same. But to be honest, let's call Syracuse what it is: a BE traitor. They are no better than Boston " Fredo" College. If they cared about the traditional rivalries then they never should have jumped at the first offer from the ACC to chase the almighty FB $. We are a proud basketball conference and any school that choses its FB future over their basketball one should no longer get to dictate any terms. I'll miss Syracuse but I'd be just as happy if Nova scheduled Kansas or Ohio State or Florida this year OOC instead of Syracuse. The wounds are still too fresh and let's face it, I see the ACC as our new conference rival in hoops. Why help them at all? The big question is do you think Syracuse is clamoring to play Gtwn, Nova and SJU to keep rivaliries in place or are they just serving their own recruiting interests? If the latter, I say: "Screw ' Em!"

Syracuse is a national program so I am not sure how much it would affect them if they didn't have games in Philly, DC and NYC. But I'd sure like to find out. Would LOVE it if their program followed BC and WVU (and hopefully Pitt) into college hoops obscurity when kids start realizing that FB drives the bus at these Power 5 conference schools, and they don't get the same # of kids from the NE corridor any longer.

As a BE purist I don't know how cuse can't be a considered BE traitor and they also aren't a national program. They are a northeast program that mostly gets its recruits from BE territory (just look at your list) with a few recruits sprinkled in from the rest of the country. That's why I think this is a huge gamble for them & why they need to try to keep playing BE teams...not for the gate $$, but for the recruiting. Kentucky & Puke are national recruiting programs, with cuse being more similar to Mich St.

[DeltaV]

Don't let petty arguments over Football kill a great Basketball rivalry. Keep GTown/Cuse going...I'd love to see Cuse keep playing Nova as well, even if that means they get exposure in the Philly recruiting market as well.

I'm not saying you agreed with Nova, but wasn't Nova's main reason for keeping Temple out of the BE for all these years in bball was to protect recruiting turf. I just saying I don't get why most posters don't seem to agree with the idea that recruiting is more important than 1 gate payday per year. I'm only making this point about former BE teams who already had a historic presence in your school's market and only for the next 5 years or so. Let's see how easy a decision this is when your school looses that one 5* or 4* best player in the city/state recruit from your home area to that school.

Nova is also going to keep playing Temple due to Big 5 games. There was nothing to gain by letting them in the old Big East; a rivalry game vs. Syracuse is going to mean national exposure on both ESPN and FS1 (possibly CBS).

[TheHall]

Don't let petty arguments over Football kill a great Basketball rivalry. Keep GTown/Cuse going...I'd love to see Cuse keep playing Nova as well, even if that means they get exposure in the Philly recruiting market as well.

I'm not saying you agreed with Nova, but wasn't Nova's main reason for keeping Temple out of the BE for all these years in bball was to protect recruiting turf. I just saying I don't get why most posters don't seem to agree with the idea that recruiting is more important than 1 gate payday per year. I'm only making this point about former BE teams who already had a historic presence in your school's market and only for the next 5 years or so. Let's see how easy a decision this is when your school looses that one 5* or 4* best player in the city/state recruit from your home area to that school.

Nova is also going to keep playing Temple due to Big 5 games. There was nothing to gain by letting them in the old Big East; a rivalry game vs. Syracuse is going to mean national exposure on both ESPN and FS1 (possibly CBS).

That's the point, not only wasn't there something to gain there was much to lose for Nova. It's totally different playing Temple (or RU in SHU's case) when they are in the BE than if they were in the A-10 or the AAC. On the recruiting trail that difference is a mile wide. I think if Temple had been in the BE during Chaney's years they would've owned Philly area over Nova. Again, even if it happens, why do you think it's cuse pushing and not the reverse.

[billyjack]

The new Syracuse president is a Georgetown ('77) alumnus.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/ ... er_default

[aughnanure]

Man, this is a tough one and Nova now has Syracuse on its schedule for the next 2 years. Boeheim has absolutely fleeced Philly of its top players over the years: Scoop Jardine and Rick Jackson, Rakeem Christmas, Dion Waiters, Hakeem Warrick, etc, etc. And we've had some epic battles down in the WF Center / Spectrum over the years. I'm a BE purist so I'd hate not seeing a game each year with Syracuse, and I would imagine the G'town fans would say the same. But to be honest, let's call Syracuse what it is: a BE traitor. They are no better than Boston " Fredo" College. If they cared about the traditional rivalries then they never should have jumped at the first offer from the ACC to chase the almighty FB $. We are a proud basketball conference and any school that choses its FB future over their basketball one should no longer get to dictate any terms. I'll miss Syracuse but I'd be just as happy if Nova scheduled Kansas or Ohio State or Florida this year OOC instead of Syracuse. The wounds are still too fresh and let's face it, I see the ACC as our new conference rival in hoops. Why help them at all? The big question is do you think Syracuse is clamoring to play Gtwn, Nova and SJU to keep rivaliries in place or are they just serving their own recruiting interests? If the latter, I say: "Screw ' Em!"

Syracuse is a national program so I am not sure how much it would affect them if they didn't have games in Philly, DC and NYC. But I'd sure like to find out. Would LOVE it if their program followed BC and WVU (and hopefully Pitt) into college hoops obscurity when kids start realizing that FB drives the bus at these Power 5 conference schools, and they don't get the same # of kids from the NE corridor any longer.

As a BE purist I don't know how cuse can't be a considered BE traitor and they also aren't a national program. They are a northeast program that mostly gets its recruits from BE territory (just look at your list) with a few recruits sprinkled in from the rest of the country. That's why I think this is a huge gamble for them & why they need to try to keep playing BE teams...not for the gate $$, but for the recruiting. Kentucky & Puke are national recruiting programs, with cuse being more similar to Mich St.

As a person from Kansas, aka The Middle, Syracuse is considered a national calibur program.

[TheHall]

Man, this is a tough one and Nova now has Syracuse on its schedule for the next 2 years. Boeheim has absolutely fleeced Philly of its top players over the years: Scoop Jardine and Rick Jackson, Rakeem Christmas, Dion Waiters, Hakeem Warrick, etc, etc. And we've had some epic battles down in the WF Center / Spectrum over the years. I'm a BE purist so I'd hate not seeing a game each year with Syracuse, and I would imagine the G'town fans would say the same. But to be honest, let's call Syracuse what it is: a BE traitor. They are no better than Boston " Fredo" College. If they cared about the traditional rivalries then they never should have jumped at the first offer from the ACC to chase the almighty FB $. We are a proud basketball conference and any school that choses its FB future over their basketball one should no longer get to dictate any terms. I'll miss Syracuse but I'd be just as happy if Nova scheduled Kansas or Ohio State or Florida this year OOC instead of Syracuse. The wounds are still too fresh and let's face it, I see the ACC as our new conference rival in hoops. Why help them at all? The big question is do you think Syracuse is clamoring to play Gtwn, Nova and SJU to keep rivaliries in place or are they just serving their own recruiting interests? If the latter, I say: "Screw ' Em!"

Syracuse is a national program so I am not sure how much it would affect them if they didn't have games in Philly, DC and NYC. But I'd sure like to find out. Would LOVE it if their program followed BC and WVU (and hopefully Pitt) into college hoops obscurity when kids start realizing that FB drives the bus at these Power 5 conference schools, and they don't get the same # of kids from the NE corridor any longer.

As a BE purist I don't know how cuse can't be a considered BE traitor and they also aren't a national program. They are a northeast program that mostly gets its recruits from BE territory (just look at your list) with a few recruits sprinkled in from the rest of the country. That's why I think this is a huge gamble for them & why they need to try to keep playing BE teams...not for the gate $$, but for the recruiting. Kentucky & Puke are national recruiting programs, with cuse being more similar to Mich St.

As a person from Kansas, aka The Middle, Syracuse is considered a national calibur program.

Not trying to be funny but just saying it doesn't make it true. How about you explain your definition of national program like I attempted to so I can further explain why IMO there are only a handful of "national" programs and cuse ain't one of them. They aspire to be because they have no choice now that are playing so many games down south. They might even reach that level but the jury's out on whether they will be successful. That's the main risk to the bball prog and Boeheim knows it.

[nathanhm]

Man, this is a tough one and Nova now has Syracuse on its schedule for the next 2 years. Boeheim has absolutely fleeced Philly of its top players over the years: Scoop Jardine and Rick Jackson, Rakeem Christmas, Dion Waiters, Hakeem Warrick, etc, etc. And we've had some epic battles down in the WF Center / Spectrum over the years. I'm a BE purist so I'd hate not seeing a game each year with Syracuse, and I would imagine the G'town fans would say the same. But to be honest, let's call Syracuse what it is: a BE traitor. They are no better than Boston " Fredo" College. If they cared about the traditional rivalries then they never should have jumped at the first offer from the ACC to chase the almighty FB $. We are a proud basketball conference and any school that choses its FB future over their basketball one should no longer get to dictate any terms. I'll miss Syracuse but I'd be just as happy if Nova scheduled Kansas or Ohio State or Florida this year OOC instead of Syracuse. The wounds are still too fresh and let's face it, I see the ACC as our new conference rival in hoops. Why help them at all? The big question is do you think Syracuse is clamoring to play Gtwn, Nova and SJU to keep rivaliries in place or are they just serving their own recruiting interests? If the latter, I say: "Screw ' Em!"

Syracuse is a national program so I am not sure how much it would affect them if they didn't have games in Philly, DC and NYC. But I'd sure like to find out. Would LOVE it if their program followed BC and WVU (and hopefully Pitt) into college hoops obscurity when kids start realizing that FB drives the bus at these Power 5 conference schools, and they don't get the same # of kids from the NE corridor any longer.

As a BE purist I don't know how cuse can't be a considered BE traitor and they also aren't a national program. They are a northeast program that mostly gets its recruits from BE territory (just look at your list) with a few recruits sprinkled in from the rest of the country. That's why I think this is a huge gamble for them & why they need to try to keep playing BE teams...not for the gate $$, but for the recruiting. Kentucky & Puke are national recruiting programs, with cuse being more similar to Mich St.

Syracuse is a national program, one of the 20 college programs of all time. Most programs get their recruits from a particular region. That being said Syracuse is a program that has the resources to pursue a kid from the across the country if they wanted. Michigan State is also a national program. Obviously Duke & Kentucky are more successful programs than Syracuse and Michigan State but no one is shocked if Syracuse or Michigan State makes the Final 4, beats Duke or Kentucky in a game, or beats them in a recruiting battle.

It's easy to point a finger at Syracuse and blame them but the writing was on the wall, the old Big East was screwed years ago. Syracuse did what was best for their school, everyone school in the Big East could have gone with them if they were invited.

Now I have no idea if Syracuse stays a national program, especially when Boeheim eventually retires, but to say Syracuse isn't a national program is insane, and I'm a Georgetown fan.

[TheHall]

Syracuse is a national program, one of the 20 college programs of all time. Most programs get their recruits from a particular region. That being said Syracuse is a program that has the resources to pursue a kid from the across the country if they wanted. Michigan State is also a national program. Obviously Duke & Kentucky are more successful programs than Syracuse and Michigan State but no one is shocked if Syracuse or Michigan State makes the Final 4, beats Duke or Kentucky in a game, or beats them in a recruiting battle.

It's easy to point a finger at Syracuse and blame them but the writing was on the wall, the old Big East was screwed years ago. Syracuse did what was best for their school, everyone school in the Big East could have gone with them if they were invited.

Now I have no idea if Syracuse stays a national program, especially when Boeheim eventually retires, but to say Syracuse isn't a national program is insane, and I'm a Georgetown fan.

Ignoring your "insane" insult...Most programs get their recruits from a certain area because most programs aren't national "recruiting" programs. Duke or Kentucky don't get nearly as many of their recruits from ACC land or SEC land, like cuse has from BE land.

Here's what I mean- national recruiting programs are on the list of top 20 players nearly every year no matter what state the recruits come from. Lately Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Indiana, UCLA, Florida, Arizona pop up on the list of any state's best players year after year. They don't always get them but they get their share. For example SHU just beat out Kentucky & Indiana for two of the best players in NYC. Who from the BE is putting that type of pressure on other states best players; not the other states good players, their top players?

It's not just cuse, no team in the BE has never recruited nationally consistently. That's not what the BE has built its success on. Prov pulled Lindsey from down south, but his family was from providence so there was an angel for Cooley to play. Just check the rankings and see how many times cuse has pulled top 20 recruits from Texas, or Louisiana, or Michigan, or Oregon, or Illinos, etc. The lone BE exception has been your hoyas when it comes to bigs. Big men anywhere are legit targets for the hoyas most years, given the hoyas track record. Cuse doesn't have anything like that.

Seriously, if region didn't matter to cuse they wouldn't be ensuring or trying to ensure these games with Nova, SJU & the Hoyas. Do you think Duke is looking to maintain games with Maryland so they can continue having a presence in the Baltimore-DC area. No, it won't effect Duke's recruiting in the area one bit. Any team can & does pick up a recruit from out of their area every once and awhile but not consistently. Being a national recruiting program doesn't have anything to do with prestige of the program, it has everything to do with where they primarily recruit.