(1) Monday Game. St. John's at Seton Hall 1/24/22

[Hall2012]

What a shit show. Not a single ounce of effort tonight. Oh well, at least after Wednesday we'll be done with gimmick ball for the season.

[hoops22]

Great effort by the Johnnies tonight. It'll be interesting to see if there's some carryover in the next game against Villanova.

[kayako]

huge 20 minutes for Seton Hall here. If you don't want a pit of misery seed you can't lose a game like this.

We weren't going to keep 7 teams above the "pit" anyways. Maybe this sparks SJU to make a run.

[stever20]

huge 20 minutes for Seton Hall here. If you don't want a pit of misery seed you can't lose a game like this.

We weren't going to keep 7 teams above the "pit" anyways. Maybe this sparks SJU to make a run.

St John's has 8 games left if they make up the game with Marquette against ranked teams(9 to include unranked Creighton). 2 ea vs Nova, Xavier, and Marquette, and single games vs Providence Creighton, and UConn. they would need to go at least 3-6 vs those 9 and quite possibly 4-5 to make the tourney. And of course sweep Butler and beat Georgetown and DePaul both on the road. They have a shot- but they're going to need to find a way to duplicate tonight quite a bit going forward.

[kayako]

huge 20 minutes for Seton Hall here. If you don't want a pit of misery seed you can't lose a game like this.

We weren't going to keep 7 teams above the "pit" anyways. Maybe this sparks SJU to make a run.

St John's has 8 games left if they make up the game with Marquette against ranked teams(9 to include unranked Creighton). 2 ea vs Nova, Xavier, and Marquette, and single games vs Providence Creighton, and UConn. they would need to go at least 3-6 vs those 9 and quite possibly 4-5 to make the tourney. And of course sweep Butler and beat Georgetown and DePaul both on the road. They have a shot- but they're going to need to find a way to duplicate tonight quite a bit going forward.

Sounds doable if they have truly turned the corner. We'll see. People keep talking about their weak ooc schedule, but what stings is their loss to Pitt. Tons of other teams are in better shape than SJU without a signature ooc win.

[stever20]

Sounds doable if they have truly turned the corner. We'll see. People keep talking about their weak ooc schedule, but what stings is their loss to Pitt. Tons of other teams are in better shape than SJU without a signature ooc win.

we'll know soon enough IMO. Next 2 are with Nova and Providence. Then @ Georgetown and @ Butler. 4 games in 8 days. That stretch will set up the rest of the season.

[kayako]

Sounds doable if they have truly turned the corner. We'll see. People keep talking about their weak ooc schedule, but what stings is their loss to Pitt. Tons of other teams are in better shape than SJU without a signature ooc win.

we'll know soon enough IMO. Next 2 are with Nova and Providence. Then @ Georgetown and @ Butler. 4 games in 8 days. That stretch will set up the rest of the season.

If I am SJU, I'd look for teams with inflated NET rankings and offer to play them on the road. It'd suck for them if the home game vs. Marquette never gets made up and they end up needing wins.

[stever20]

Sounds doable if they have truly turned the corner. We'll see. People keep talking about their weak ooc schedule, but what stings is their loss to Pitt. Tons of other teams are in better shape than SJU without a signature ooc win.

we'll know soon enough IMO. Next 2 are with Nova and Providence. Then @ Georgetown and @ Butler. 4 games in 8 days. That stretch will set up the rest of the season.

If I am SJU, I'd look for teams with inflated NET rankings and offer to play them on the road. It'd suck for them if the home game vs. Marquette never gets made up and they end up needing wins.

They only have the Marquette game not scheduled to make up right now. So set for 30 games- only space for 1 game. Tonight was the Seton Hall makeup. Have Georgetown and Butler already scheduled to be made up.

[kayako]

They only have the Marquette game not scheduled to make up right now. So set for 30 games- only space for 1 game. Tonight was the Seton Hall makeup. Have Georgetown and Butler already scheduled to be made up.

Yeah, Nova's also got a free game in its pockets. But Nova's probably better off playing 30 games with its short rotation. SJU may end up needing that one more game.

[stever20]

a bit better than I was expecting- Seton Hall only dropped from 29 to 36 last night in the NET.

St John's up from 109 to 91. 16 spots away from being a Q1 road game.