Ranking and discussion of the Big East Arenas

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Re: Ranking and discussion of the Big East Arenas

Postby Dave » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:47 pm

1.Hinkle Fieldhouse (Butler) Opened: 1928 (renovated 2011), Capacity: 10,000
2.Cintas Center (Xavier) Opened: 2000, Capacity: 10,500
3.BMO Harris Bradley Center (Marquette) Opened: 1988, Capacity: 18,850
4.CenturyLink Center (Creighton) Opened: 2003, Capacity: 18,320
5.Dunkin Donuts Center (Providence) Opened: 1972 (renovated 2008), Capacity: 12,400
6.Madison Square Garden (St. John's) Opened: 1968 (renovated 2013), Capacity: 19,033
7.Wells Fargo Center (Nova) 20,000
8.Verizon Center (Georgetown) Opened: 1997, Capacity: 20,308
9.Allstate Arena (Depaul) Opened: 1980, Capacity: 17,500
10.The Pavilion (Villanova) Opened: 1986, Capacity: 6,500
11.Prudential Center (Seton Hall) Opened: 2007, Capacity: 18,711
12.Carnesecca (SJU) 6,000

Considering: Size, relation to campus, what games are actually played there, surroundings, game day experience, etc.

For Nova and SJU, for example, the on campus sites are too small and don't host the best games, which go to WFC and MSG which are obviously way off campus. The Pavillion only gets a really good game once a year or so. A handful of Nova games go to WFC. Hinkle and Cintas being connected to campus is a huge bump. MSG only gets a few games, but location is great. Verizon isn't near Georgetown, poor surroundings for pregame / postgame. I haven't been to all, only about half, so I need to get a better first hand view of the western expansion. But my impression of the New 3 is that they have better venues than the C7.
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Postby marquette » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:51 pm

MUBoxer wrote:I am kind of sick of the Bradley center as an arena but its location is perfect for the Milwaukee drinking atmosphere before ND and Wisconsin my buddies and I would literally go to the bars wait till bar close and walk over and camp out. Plus after the games the huge crowds of MU fans at the bars. I'm worried the new arena will be sent far off by like Miller park or worse that they'll expand the al McGuire center and we'll lose the ability to drink at games.


All indications are that the new arena will be just a block north of the BMO, bounded by 4th and 6th street on the East/West and Mckinley and Juneau on the North/South. The lot is currently vacant and kind of a blight on the downtown area. You can check it out on google maps if you want.
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Re: Ranking and discussion of the Big East Arenas

Postby Blue Blobs Bro » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:58 pm

Bostonspider was that last pic from ncaa 10 ?
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Re: Ranking and discussion of the Big East Arenas

Postby marquette » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:15 pm

Blue Blobs Bro wrote:Bostonspider was that last pic from ncaa 10 ?


That's the concept drawing. The building was renovated (is being renovated?) and no games have been played in the new look arena.
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Re: Ranking and discussion of the Big East Arenas

Postby hoyahooligan » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:20 pm

Dave wrote:1.Hinkle Fieldhouse (Butler) Opened: 1928 (renovated 2011), Capacity: 10,000
2.Cintas Center (Xavier) Opened: 2000, Capacity: 10,500
3.BMO Harris Bradley Center (Marquette) Opened: 1988, Capacity: 18,850
4.CenturyLink Center (Creighton) Opened: 2003, Capacity: 18,320
5.Dunkin Donuts Center (Providence) Opened: 1972 (renovated 2008), Capacity: 12,400
6.Madison Square Garden (St. John's) Opened: 1968 (renovated 2013), Capacity: 19,033
7.Wells Fargo Center (Nova) 20,000
8.Verizon Center (Georgetown) Opened: 1997, Capacity: 20,308
9.Allstate Arena (Depaul) Opened: 1980, Capacity: 17,500
10.The Pavilion (Villanova) Opened: 1986, Capacity: 6,500
11.Prudential Center (Seton Hall) Opened: 2007, Capacity: 18,711
12.Carnesecca (SJU) 6,000

Considering: Size, relation to campus, what games are actually played there, surroundings, game day experience, etc.

For Nova and SJU, for example, the on campus sites are too small and don't host the best games, which go to WFC and MSG which are obviously way off campus. The Pavillion only gets a really good game once a year or so. A handful of Nova games go to WFC. Hinkle and Cintas being connected to campus is a huge bump. MSG only gets a few games, but location is great. Verizon isn't near Georgetown, poor surroundings for pregame / postgame. I haven't been to all, only about half, so I need to get a better first hand view of the western expansion. But my impression of the New 3 is that they have better venues than the C7.



I think there's plenty to do in terms of pregame/postgame around verizon. When was the last time you were there?

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1.Hinkle Fieldhouse (Butler) Opened: 1928 (renovated 2011), Capacity: 10,000
2.Cintas Center (Xavier) Opened: 2000, Capacity: 10,500
3.BMO Harris Bradley Center (Marquette) Opened: 1988, Capacity: 18,850
4.CenturyLink Center (Creighton) Opened: 2003, Capacity: 18,320
5. Madison Square Garden (St. John's) Opened: 1968 (renovated 2013), Capacity: 19,033
6. Verizon Center (Georgetown) Opened: 1997, Capacity: 20,308
7. Dunkin Donuts Center (Providence) Opened: 1972 (renovated 2008), Capacity: 12,400
8. Wells Fargo Center (Nova) 20,000
9.Allstate Arena (Depaul) Opened: 1980, Capacity: 17,500
10.The Pavilion (Villanova) Opened: 1986, Capacity: 6,500
11.Prudential Center (Seton Hall) Opened: 2007, Capacity: 18,711
12.Carnesecca (SJU) 6,000
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Re: Ranking and discussion of the Big East Arenas

Postby MUBoxer » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:41 pm

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MUBoxer wrote:I am kind of sick of the Bradley center as an arena but its location is perfect for the Milwaukee drinking atmosphere before ND and Wisconsin my buddies and I would literally go to the bars wait till bar close and walk over and camp out. Plus after the games the huge crowds of MU fans at the bars. I'm worried the new arena will be sent far off by like Miller park or worse that they'll expand the al McGuire center and we'll lose the ability to drink at games.


All indications are that the new arena will be just a block north of the BMO, bounded by 4th and 6th street on the East/West and Mckinley and Juneau on the North/South. The lot is currently vacant and kind of a blight on the downtown area. You can check it out on google maps if you want.


I could live with that. Not quite next to the brat house the way it is now but what's a block walk when you're camped out all night?
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Re: Ranking and discussion of the Big East Arenas

Postby ChelseaFriar » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:47 pm

I have been to Providence games at:

Providence:
Dunkin' Donuts Center

St. John's:
Madison Square Garden
Carnesecca Arena

Villanova:
Wachovia Center

Seton Hall:
Prudential Center

I have a friend living in Cinci so hoping to get to the PC game at Xavier this year.
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Re: Ranking and discussion of the Big East Arenas

Postby redmen9194 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:53 pm

There is nothing like winning a big game at MSG. In 2011 when the Johnnies beat G'Town, Duke, Notre Dame, UConn, and Pitt at the Garden the place was unbelievable. And they make every game an event. not your typical college arena, but it's very cool.
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Re: Ranking and discussion of the Big East Arenas

Postby marquette » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:01 pm

MUBoxer wrote:
I could live with that. Not quite next to the brat house the way it is now but what's a block walk when you're camped out all night?


Yeah, it's only slightly further away from the Brat House and Major Goolsby's, so those traditions should be pretty safe. It's also still a very reasonable walk from campus (maybe 15-20 minutes). I'm curious what they will do with the BC once the new arena is up. Without their primary tenants (I'm assuming Marquette and the Admirals will move along with the Bucks) I'm not sure there is really any business for the BC. All the concerts and other events held there will mostl likely move, too. Maybe they will turn it into more downtown parking, or add more business space. Maybe both or something completely different. Between the possible new arena and the 2 new skyscrapers that are going in along the downtown lakefront there are some pretty cool improvements coming to Milwaukee.
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Re: Ranking and discussion of the Big East Arenas

Postby MUBoxer » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:30 pm

marquette wrote:
MUBoxer wrote:
I could live with that. Not quite next to the brat house the way it is now but what's a block walk when you're camped out all night?


Yeah, it's only slightly further away from the Brat House and Major Goolsby's, so those traditions should be pretty safe. It's also still a very reasonable walk from campus (maybe 15-20 minutes). I'm curious what they will do with the BC once the new arena is up. Without their primary tenants (I'm assuming Marquette and the Admirals will move along with the Bucks) I'm not sure there is really any business for the BC. All the concerts and other events held there will mostl likely move, too. Maybe they will turn it into more downtown parking, or add more business space. Maybe both or something completely different. Between the possible new arena and the 2 new skyscrapers that are going in along the downtown lakefront there are some pretty cool improvements coming to Milwaukee.


Us cellular arena seems to do pretty well despite not having any major tennants. But where are said skyscrapers? I'm clearly out of the loop.
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