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Re: It's time to review St John's

Postby REDMEN1415 » Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:26 pm

Wilcher and Ledlum as walk-ons?

Lol that's insane, but thanks to nil, why not?

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Postby Hall2012 » Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:34 am

REDMEN1415 wrote:Wilcher and Ledlum as walk-ons?

Lol that's insane, but thanks to nil, why not?

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Yeah, scholarship limits are completely irrelevant the way NIL is now. When you're already giving a kid 6-7 figures/year to play for you, the cost of tuition is hardly noticeable.
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Re: It's time to review St John's

Postby TBC Alum » Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:34 am

There is still only 1 ball though. It's going to be difficult to keep a team together when 8-9 guys max are ok with rotations and most of the rest unhappy.
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Re: It's time to review St John's

Postby Omaha1 » Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:22 am

Hall2012 wrote:
REDMEN1415 wrote:Wilcher and Ledlum as walk-ons?

Lol that's insane, but thanks to nil, why not?

RICKY!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, scholarship limits are completely irrelevant the way NIL is now. When you're already giving a kid 6-7 figures/year to play for you, the cost of tuition is hardly noticeable.

Yes and No. The full cost of tuition at most Big East schools has to be $50-75k, right? Not sure what everyone’s NIL is like, but if a school can guarantee $100k, it doesn’t move the needle nearly enough if the kid has to pay their own way because they aren’t on scholarship.
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Re: It's time to review St John's

Postby adoraz » Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:47 am

Omaha1 wrote:
Hall2012 wrote:
REDMEN1415 wrote:Wilcher and Ledlum as walk-ons?

Lol that's insane, but thanks to nil, why not?

RICKY!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, scholarship limits are completely irrelevant the way NIL is now. When you're already giving a kid 6-7 figures/year to play for you, the cost of tuition is hardly noticeable.

Yes and No. The full cost of tuition at most Big East schools has to be $50-75k, right? Not sure what everyone’s NIL is like, but if a school can guarantee $100k, it doesn’t move the needle nearly enough if the kid has to pay their own way because they aren’t on scholarship.


When top 30 recruits and top 60 transfers are accepting walk-ons then the money is clearly working for them. All that matters is whatever St. John's is offering is more than (or similar to) the competition + scholarship. Could get out of hand with some schools but happy that St. John's is in this position of strength.
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Re: It's time to review St John's

Postby Hall2012 » Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:46 pm

Omaha1 wrote:
Hall2012 wrote:
REDMEN1415 wrote:Wilcher and Ledlum as walk-ons?

Lol that's insane, but thanks to nil, why not?

RICKY!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, scholarship limits are completely irrelevant the way NIL is now. When you're already giving a kid 6-7 figures/year to play for you, the cost of tuition is hardly noticeable.

Yes and No. The full cost of tuition at most Big East schools has to be $50-75k, right? Not sure what everyone’s NIL is like, but if a school can guarantee $100k, it doesn’t move the needle nearly enough if the kid has to pay their own way because they aren’t on scholarship.


Kid wants $100k, school says we don't have a scholarship so here's $175k (or whatever $100k + tuition is) instead so you can pay your own way and still net your $100k. NIL absolutely circumvents scholarship limits for schools with the NIL funds available to afford it.
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Re: It's time to review St John's

Postby xufan02 » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:53 am

A scholarship covers a lot more then school, room and board. It covers medial staff visits, gear, strength and conditioning, travel, nutrition and a lot more. How are the schools going to financially account for non-scholarship player with NIL for all those things that they wouldn't provide for a standard walk-on? Do they send them a bill? :D
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Re: It's time to review St John's

Postby Savannah Jay » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:44 pm

xufan02 wrote:A scholarship covers a lot more then school, room and board. It covers medial staff visits, gear, strength and conditioning, travel, nutrition and a lot more. How are the schools going to financially account for non-scholarship player with NIL for all those things that they wouldn't provide for a standard walk-on? Do they send them a bill? :D


I'm pretty sure walk-ons get gear, strength & conditioning, meals, tutoring, etc, just like those on scholarship.
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Re: It's time to review St John's

Postby REDMEN1415 » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:38 pm

Official at 3pm.
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Re: It's time to review St John's

Postby sju88grad » Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:41 pm

I’m seriously not sure how to process all of this…..20+ years of irrelevancy had me pretty much numb…..I finally feel hopeful that we might actually start having some success…..
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