Preseason Top 25 discussion

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Re: Preseason Top 25 discussion

Postby redmen9194 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:06 am

First, who cares about the pre-season rankings. Especially the coaches poll which is probably the least objective of all of them. Second, this conference does not need any other schools - not one. If we all play to our potential we will do fine. We do not need UConn, we do not need Syracuse. Funny thing this past week - All year long you hear the ACC and ESPN talking about how they are going to bring their show to New York City and the Garden and how Syracuse has a foothold in the City. The come in on July 1 and hold a little tourist party in Times Square. Well if you look at the NYC newspapers this week, the ACC media day got just about ZERO coverage. Syracuse hoops got zero coverage. The Big East and St. John's were all over the sports sections. So everyone needs to chill about what teams we don't have and focus on the ones we do have.
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Postby aughnanure » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:18 am

redmen9194 wrote:First, who cares about the pre-season rankings. Especially the coaches poll which is probably the least objective of all of them. Second, this conference does not need any other schools - not one. If we all play to our potential we will do fine. We do not need UConn, we do not need Syracuse. Funny thing this past week - All year long you hear the ACC and ESPN talking about how they are going to bring their show to New York City and the Garden and how Syracuse has a foothold in the City. The come in on July 1 and hold a little tourist party in Times Square. Well if you look at the NYC newspapers this week, the ACC media day got just about ZERO coverage. Syracuse hoops got zero coverage. The Big East and St. John's were all over the sports sections. So everyone needs to chill about what teams we don't have and focus on the ones we do have.


I understand that many people like to say this for a variety of reasons, but come-on. No, no one cares about preseason rankings. Only Every. Single. Sport. does it.

Half of being a fan is arguing rankings, who's better, who got screwed, discussing next year's teams, etc. At least this isn't football where if you don't start in the top 10 you really don't have a chance, but still.
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Re: Preseason Top 25 discussion

Postby DumpsterFireA10 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:06 pm

aughnanure wrote:
redmen9194 wrote:First, who cares about the pre-season rankings. Especially the coaches poll which is probably the least objective of all of them. Second, this conference does not need any other schools - not one. If we all play to our potential we will do fine. We do not need UConn, we do not need Syracuse. Funny thing this past week - All year long you hear the ACC and ESPN talking about how they are going to bring their show to New York City and the Garden and how Syracuse has a foothold in the City. The come in on July 1 and hold a little tourist party in Times Square. Well if you look at the NYC newspapers this week, the ACC media day got just about ZERO coverage. Syracuse hoops got zero coverage. The Big East and St. John's were all over the sports sections. So everyone needs to chill about what teams we don't have and focus on the ones we do have.


I understand that many people like to say this for a variety of reasons, but come-on. No, no one cares about preseason rankings. Only Every. Single. Sport. does it.

Half of being a fan is arguing rankings, who's better, who got screwed, discussing next year's teams, etc. At least this isn't football where if you don't start in the top 10 you really don't have a chance, but still.


They do it to build excitement...and piss off some of the other fanbases so they'll watch some of the games in blood donor season.
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Re: Preseason Top 25 discussion

Postby admin » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:55 pm

AP poll released today- only Marquette is ranked at #17. Creighton would be 27th.
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Re: Preseason Top 25 discussion

Postby hoyahooligan » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:19 pm

admin wrote:AP poll released today- only Marquette is ranked at #17. Creighton would be 27th.


Villanova 33, Georgetown 35, St. John's 44.

I think it's asinine that Georgetown isn't in the top 25, but oh well. We'll prove them wrong yet again.
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Re: Preseason Top 25 discussion

Postby DumpsterFireA10 » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:45 pm

I guess I shouldn't be arguing for SLUs Big East candidacy anymore.
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Re: Preseason Top 25 discussion

Postby Bill Marsh » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:59 pm

admin wrote:Yes, I know that it doesn't really matter, but only one Big East team ranked to start the season? I am truly stunned.


I don't think it's surprising. There are uncertainties about all of the Big East's most highly rated teams and the ones with the most coming back are St. John's and Providence, both of whom still have to prove themselves on the court.

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Re: Preseason Top 25 discussion

Postby stever20 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:57 am

yep.

I also think if Creighton were a returning team- not a team entering a perceived tougher conference- they'd be ranked, likely ahead of Marquette.

I think for Georgetown it's 2 things- 1 losing one of the 5 best players, and also voters can't get the NCAA failure out of their minds.
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Re: Preseason Top 25 discussion

Postby Jays26 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:53 am

admin wrote:AP poll released today- only Marquette is ranked at #17. Creighton would be 27th.


Pretty meaningless in the pre-season but fun to talk about.

Funny thing is if Creighton were still in the MVC they would be the favorite to win that league and be ranked in the top 15.
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Re: Preseason Top 25 discussion

Postby stever20 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:30 am

Jays26 wrote:
admin wrote:AP poll released today- only Marquette is ranked at #17. Creighton would be 27th.


Pretty meaningless in the pre-season but fun to talk about.

Funny thing is if Creighton were still in the MVC they would be the favorite to win that league and be ranked in the top 15.

The thing we don't know is if McDermott returns for senior year if they are still in the MVC. He pretty much said as much in a piece I saw earlier this week.
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