top 25 12/2

[Dew]

I apologize to the Big East fans for getting baited by this A10 guy, but I had to look it up. Using KenPom which is much better than RPI early in the season, the Big East has 3 teams in the Top 25 - Nova, GTown, Creighton. The first A10 teams are VCU at 24 and UMass at 26.

Let the facts speak.

[stever20]

The A10 has had a very strong start to the season. However, even with that they are 8 in almost every cpu rating- just behind the SEC.

I think the one thing though that favors the A10 is they don't have a round robin, and they only have 4 2x games per school. So they can gerrymander the schedule to make it where top teams aren't seeing the dogs twice- which really helps the top teams RPI. That's why they will get as many teams as we do most likely into the tournament- because they aren't beating the tar out of each other.

He is right, we do need more OOC wins though against good teams.

[tsmithohio1234]

Hate to disappoint, however here is the current RPI. Dayton and UMAS in top 25 - Villinova only BE in there.

Rank School W-L RPI SOS SOS Conf. Conf.
Rank W-L
1   Massachusetts  6-0  0.7848 3  0.7131   Atl10 0-0 
2   Kansas  6-1  0.7541 2  0.7296   Big12 0-0 
3   Connecticut  7-0  0.7509 7  0.6678   Aac 0-0 
4   Baylor  5-1  0.7481 1  0.7336   Big12 0-0 
5   Syracuse  7-0  0.7287 9  0.6383   Acc 0-0 
6   Wisconsin  8-0  0.7277 10  0.6370   Big10 0-0 
7   Villanova  7-0  0.7214 13  0.6286   Bige 0-0 
8   Michigan St.  7-0  0.6941 42  0.5921   Big10 0-0 
9   Brigham Young  5-2  0.6876 5  0.7047   Wcc 0-0 
10   Wichita St.  7-0  0.6841 51  0.5788   Mvc 0-0 


11   Memphis  5-1  0.6834 21  0.6196   Aac 0-0 
12   Ohio St.  6-0  0.6774 62  0.5698   Big10 0-0 
13   Dayton  6-1  0.6742 11  0.6363   Atl10 0-0 
14   Arizona  7-0  0.6677 75  0.5569   Pac12 0-0 
15   St. Mary's  6-0  0.6644 82  0.5525   Wcc 0-0 
16   Oklahoma St.  7-1  0.6623 34  0.5988   Big12 0-0 
17   Ohio  5-1  0.6578 44  0.5891   Midam 0-0 
18   Illinois  7-0  0.6577 99  0.5436   Big10 0-0 
19   Iowa St.  5-0  0.6577 100  0.5435   Big12 0-0 
20   Colorado  7-1  0.6551 55  0.5759   Pac12 0-0 


21   San Diego St.  4-1  0.6548 12  0.6331   Mwest 0-0 
22   Drake  5-1  0.6533 60  0.5710   Mvc 0-0 
23   Drexel  4-2  0.6503 22  0.6170   Coln 0-0 
24   LSU  5-2  0.6463 15  0.6271   Sec 0-0 
25   Gonzaga  6-1  0.6458 38  0.5944   Wcc 0-0

[Dew]

The A10 and Big East could get the same number of bids but the division if income is completely different. The long term prospect of the Big East is much better.

[Dew]

RPI means zero right now. Read my earlier post. Christ, I'm done with this guy.

[stever20]

The A10 and Big East could get the same number of bids but the division if income is completely different. The long term prospect of the Big East is much better.

Basically, the A10 would need to win 1 more game in the tourney to get the money equal.

I'd say the long term prospect is better than the A10 because we can raid them at any point. Or the AAC could raid them and take UMass. They lose UMass, VCU, and SLU- they would be left with Dayton and..... But until they are raided, in any individual season, they are a threat.

[Chalmers0]

RPI means zero right now. Read my earlier post. Christ, I'm done with this guy.

I'm assuming he's a Dayton fan. If you've ever ventured over to UDPride (I don't really suggest doing so) they absolutely live by RPI as the end all be all of college basketball, regardless of what time of year it is.

[admin]

I generally try to stay impartial, but let's be honest here: It's pretty difficult to make a determination about either league based on a poll that has UMASS #1.

[stever20]

I generally try to stay impartial, but let's be honest here: It's pretty difficult to make a determination about either league based on a poll that has UMASS #1.

pretty much all of the computers have UMass in the top 15.

UMass could be a very dangerous team. They're not projected to lose in Massey until March 1. Individual game in Ken Pom- same thing. He's got them going 23-7(if you have 2 games where you are like 55% favorites, in his overall record he gives you 1 win and 1 loss). They have a top 10 sos so far.

[admin]

I generally try to stay impartial, but let's be honest here: It's pretty difficult to make a determination about either league based on a poll that has UMASS #1.

pretty much all of the computers have UMass in the top 15.

UMass could be a very dangerous team. They're not projected to lose in Massey until March 1. Individual game in Ken Pom- same thing. He's got them going 23-7(if you have 2 games where you are like 55% favorites, in his overall record he gives you 1 win and 1 loss). They have a top 10 sos so far.

KenPom.com has them 26th apparently. And their Top 10 SOS a month into the season will change significantly once conference play begins.